thanks I'll check it out next sunday . On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Barkow, Eileen <[email protected]>wrote:
> It just takes a second to de-allocate and re-allocate (depending on how > slow the system is). > The tdq will not automatically re-allocate. > Applications should not be writing to CICS system supplied tdqs but if > they do or if CICS tries to write, an abend will result. > But things will clear up as soon as the tdq is reallocated and opened (I > left out that you may also have to re-open the closed tdqs: CEMT SET > TDQ(xxx) OPE)). > > There are various keywords you can specify with ALLOC in ADYN (ALLOC? > gives a list of them - I think that the CLOSEUA option is equivalent to > FREE=CLOSE). > ALLOC? > > > > > KEYWORDS OF ALLOCATE VERB ARE > DDNAME FILE DSNAME DATASET MEMBER STATUS DISP CONDDISP TRACKS CYLINDER > BLOCKS > PRIMARY SECONDRY DIRECTRY RELEASE SPCEFORM ROUND VOL PRIVATE VOLSEQ > VOLCOUNT > VOLREF UNIT UNITCNT PARALLEL SYSOUT SYSOUPGM SYSOUFRM OUTLIM CLOSEUA COPIES > LABEL DSSEQ PASSWORD INOUT EXPDT RETPD DUMMY FCBIMAGE FCBOPT QNAME > TERMINAL UCS > UCSFOLD UCSVERFY DCBDSNAM DCBDDNAM BFALN BFTEK BLKSIZE BUFIN BUFL BUFMAX > BUFNO > BUFOF BUFOUT BUFRQ BUFSZ PTCODE CPRI DENSITY DSORG ERROPT GNCP INTERVAL > KEYLEN > LIMCT LRECL MODE NCP OPTCD PCIR PCIS PRTSP RECFM RESERVEF RESERVES SOWA > STACK > THRESH TRTCH PASSWRD PERM CNVERT DIAGNOSE QDDNAME QDSNAME QDSORG DEST HOLD > FRID > QVOL > DYNALLOC NOT ISSUED > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Matan Cohen > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC > > thanks , I will try it soon , but I'm wondering what will happen if I'll > free the File and application try to write to TDQ? will it be allocate > automatically? > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Barkow, Eileen <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of > > the indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME. > > IE: for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE: CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO > > > > Others DDnames may have more than 1 tdq using it so you will have to > > find all of them. > > CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any > > > > Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate. > > > > ADYN > > FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC > > ... to reallocate: > > ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A) > > ...... to end ADYN, clear screen and use ALT-INSERT-ENTER keys > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Matan Cohen > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC > > > > and > > 'CEEMSG' . > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > 'IXT0' > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > >> What is the sysout dd name? > > >> > > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen > > >> <[email protected] > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > None of the suggestion above seems to help. > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen > > >> > <[email protected] > > >> > >wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Hi Itschak, > > >> > > Nice to hear from you :) > > >> > > I'll try to Use it - Hope it will help me. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach > > >> > ><[email protected] > > >> > >wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> Hi Matan, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC > > >> > >> jcl > > >> > provide > > >> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the > > >> > >> file (The transaction that writes to the sysout which is > > >> > >> triggered from the > > >> TDQ), > > >> > >> the > > >> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> ITschak > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen < > > >> [email protected] > > >> > >> >wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Hi , > > >> > >> > Thank for the help . > > >> > >> > I should have provide you with the following info : > > >> > >> > the STC is a CICS . > > >> > >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant > > >> control > > >> > the > > >> > >> > PGM nor the JCL. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < > > >> > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > In <[email protected]>, on > > >> 06/29/2012 > > >> > >> > > at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> said: > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and > > >> > >> > > >FREE...is > > >> this > > >> > a > > >> > >> > > >vendor STC or in house written? > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But > > >> > >> > > does > > >> the > > >> > OP > > >> > >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself? > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > -- > > >> > >> > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > > >> > >> > > Atid/2 <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> > > >> > >> > > We don't care. 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