Or a DEFINE ... RECATALOG if needed. That may require doing a DEFINE ALIAS to 
point the HLQ to the properly named catalog.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Creating a GDG Base with NOSCRATCH in an SMS pool
> 
>    Is the base there? If I found a bunch of uncatalog GDG like datasets
> in my SMS pool, I would likely conclude the Storage Admin (me) made a
> mistake at some point in the past :). I might then conclude (hopefully
> after looking closely) that these datasets could not be useful as SMS
> does not allow access to uncataloged datasets, that they were
> candidates for DELETE gdsn NVR.
> 
> 
> Dave Gibney
> Information Technology Services
> Washington State University
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:11 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Creating a GDG Base with NOSCRATCH in an SMS pool
> >
> > So, if I run a scan on my Pool with DFDSS with CATLG EQ NO, and I
> find lots of
> > files, they are probably uncataloged in the SMS pool.
> >
> > If I use option 3.4 on the GDG Base and turn up NO dataset listings,
> then I
> > probably do not have any uncataloged GDGs under that base.
> >
> > We are also using CA Vantage function for uncataloged datasets just
> to make
> > sure we do not have anything under the specific GDG base.
> >
> > I used GDGBase.G* for the search.  If this is incorrect, please let
> me know
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> > >
> > >Yes and no.:-)  With SMS, when you use NOSCRATCH, the GDS data set
> is
> > >rolled off the GDG and, instead of becoming uncatalogued, the GDS
> entry
> > >becomes a normal non-VSAM entry. This means that it can only be
> > referenced
> > >by GOOVOO number, not via relative GDG number. And is not accessable
> via
> > >GDG-all processing. This is only possible due to the use of ICF
> catalogs.
> > >
> > >SMS does not allow uncatalogued data sets. Well, theoretically. I've
> seen
> > >some, but I don't know how the got there. I think it was when an HLQ
> was
> > >changed to point to a different catalog.
> > >On Aug 21, 2012 6:14 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I ran across this in a problem today and I got a little confused.
> > >>
> > >> Is it possible to use DEF GDG (name(xyaz) NOSCRATCH NOPURGE) in an
> > SMS
> > >> pool.
> > >>
> > >> Is it possible that SMS will honor the NOSCRACH and allow
> uncataloged
> > GDG
> > >> datasets in the POOL?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Lizette
> >
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