No one has mentioned the enhancement that most interests us:the EC12 can 
be installed in a data center *without raised floor*.  Slab floors have 
become de rigour for new built-from-scratch data centers. The z114 can be 
mounted on slab but not the z196. This is the first Enterprise Class 
mainframe that can live happily in the brave new world. 

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JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:   August Carideo <august.cari...@avon.com>
To:     IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   08/28/2012 10:41 AM
Subject:        Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>



and it fits very few environments running now ( other then up-to-date Z/os
shops )
and eliminated ESCON
there would have to be major lic cost saving to even look into this, which
I did not see mentioned



From:       shai hess <shai.h...@gmail.com>
To:         IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date:       08/28/2012 01:31 PM
Subject:    Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
Sent by:    IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>



Why IBM manufacture new MF?
Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?


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