Doesn't mean much to us, really. But the post below says that the government of 
Quebec installed Oracle on zLinux on a z9 (like ours) and licensing savings in 
one year paid the cost of the z9. Of course, since we are going to MS-only, 
this is meaningless to us. And Oracle is an extreme example due to it being 
overpriced.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:24 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of
> Tennessee
> 
> >>> On 9/4/2012 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Sugliani <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Interesting
> > Could you provide real numbers ?
> > For example to start with :  the price for Linux server license on an
> IFL
> > and the one on a x86 server ?
> 
> https://www.suse.com/products/systemz/how-to-buy/
> https://www.suse.com/products/server/how-to-buy/
> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/
> 
> But that's not middleware, which is where far more significant costs
> come into play.  Oracle, DB2, WebSphere are all licensed by the number
> of processors in a system.  Oracle charges slightly more for System z
> processors, but not much.  See my reply to Richard Hintz for pointers
> to my presentation that has real dollars listed.
> 
> For most shops, every production system has a fair number of ancillary
> systems configured the same, or close to it: dev/test, QA, DR, cluster
> failover, etc.  A lot of people conveniently forget to count these
> systems, which must all be licensed as well, when doing TCO or TCA
> calculations.  It doesn't take very many middleware licenses to pay for
> a z10BC or z114.  The government of Quebec bought a brand-new (at the
> time) z9 to run Oracle, and recovered the entire cost within 12 months
> from licensing savings.
> 
> 
> Mark Post
> 
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