Clark Morris <[email protected]> writes:
> I see what you have posted and what Lynn Wheeler has posted and am
> confused.  Assuming that VMware on Intel and similar solutions for the
> p series have gotten much better since 2007 (not unrealistic), I'm
> looking at the relative CPU power and asking is the server utilization
> in a well run Intel (Windows and Linux) or IBM p series shop still so
> low that z can beat them on a total dollars out the door.  Is the main
> difference the I-O handling?  
>
> Is IBM mainframe traditional software (CICS, IMS, COBOL) subsidizing
> IBM mainframe new world software (Websphere, Java, C/C++)?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#87 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off 
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#88 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off 
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#90 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off 
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

There is TPC-C ... transaction benchmark for comparison
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp

least expensive ($$/tpm) in the top 10 is ibm i86, most expensive is ibm
risc.

IBM: "Converge your data center on your terms"
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/info/x86servers/blades/servers/index.html

above fumbled a little bit, e5-2600 is two chip, 8-core/chip, 16 core.

IBM has a whole slew of e5-2600 benchmarks here
https://www-304.ibm.com/easyaccess1/fileserve?contentid=232077

can anybody find similar numbers for z196 and/or EC12??

ibm has e5-2600 in number of server products
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/x/news/20120306_announce/index.html

not just hs23.

This claims the highest density per rack footprint
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/x/hardware/rack/dx360m4/index.html

not e5-2600 ... but more ibm i86 benchmarks (from aug&sep 2011)
http://benchmarkingblog.wordpress.com/category/x3850/

note that disks will be the same across the three technologies, however
i86 and risc will frequently have an edge over mainframe w/o the
overhead of the additional layer to simulate CKD (ckd disks haven't been
manufactured for decades, being emulated on industry standard disks).

some recent server-class disk i/o

5Gbyte/second, 724K IOPS (i/o operations per second)
http://www.servethehome.com/lsi-9202-16/

6.6Gbyte/second, 450K IOPS
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/adaptec-by-pmc-transforms-data-center-storage-architectures-with-industrys-highest-port-count-pcie-gen3-raid-adapters-2012-09-05

e5-2600 based servers ... lsi
http://www.scsita.org/library/2012/03/lsi-sas-technology-powers-over-200-new-server-models-based-on-the-intel-xeon-processor-e5-2600-produ.html

more e5-2600 ... adaptec
http://www.scsita.org/library/2012/03/adaptec-doubles-server-storage-performance-and-bandwidth-in-cebit-demo-featuring-pcie-30-on-the-inte.html

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