Lizette,

I agree with Skip Robertson.  EDIT PACK is probably on.  This not something 
defined per the dataset.  This is specified in the EDIT PROFILE and is applied 
at the MEMBER level, not the dataset level.  I.E. You can have just one member 
within a PDS saved with PACK ON and still have others saved with PACK OFF.  To 
verify, edit the member in question.  While in edit, show the PROF.  If it 
shows ....PACK ON.... in the profile, that is the problem.  To fix the member, 
type PROF UNLOCK on the command line (if the profile is locked), then type PACK 
OFF, then SAVE the member.  Now it should be OK.

This is also why copy of the member gives you a good member.  ISPF COPY is 
smart enough to recognize the PACKed data and unpack it when it is copied.

If this is the issue, you will need to repeat this for every member that has 
the problem.  Beware!  If you edit a member that has PACK ON, and your profile 
is UNLOCKED, your profile will automagically switch to PACK ON.

I cannot test this at my site as they have ISPF installed with PACK ON disabled.

Good luck,
Bill Bass
United HealthCare
Greenville, SC

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 5:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Strange PDS members

The INFO on the dataset does not show PACK or SCLM turned on.

The browse shows NO hex chars in the member.  Only when I unload the file.

So far I have

1)  Member looks normal
2)  Dataset does not have SCLM or PACK 
3)  Dataset is NON SMS
4)  Unload of PDS using SAS Unload shows Hex Chars
5)  Browse, EDIT or VIEW does not show any HEX chars


Now the weirder part - I can copy the file to "fix" it.  then a later it is 
once again "magically" broken

Lizette

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Pommier, Rex R." <[email protected]>
>Sent: Oct 12, 2012 2:40 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Strange PDS members
>
>Liz,
>
>What happens if you try to either edit or view the file?  Just as an 
>experiment, I just edited a PDS member and purposefully added a hex character 
>to it.  Browsing the member then just showed a period instead of the 
>non-displayable character.  Editing or viewing the member threw up the 
>"caution - data contains invalid characters" message that didn't appear in 
>browse..
>
>Rex
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Strange PDS members
>
>I have a strange issue. I browse a member of a PDS and it looks fine.  But if 
>I use SAS UNLOAD and that same member is showing tons of hex characters.  
>IEBCOPY does not show any errors.
>
>Are there any FREEWARE PDS analysis tools?
>
>Or any ideas why a member might look normal in ISPF but with SAS Unload show 
>lots of hex characters?
>
>Thanks..
>
>Lizette
>

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