Mike,

Your response confused me (easily done, I know).

<quote>

When VRSes are used, and in recent releases, when VRSEL retention method is 
used, all the retention types in the VRS must be true for a data set to be 
retained. So, if still cataloged, and the VRS specifies WHILECATALOG, a data 
set will be retained regardless of the EXPDT/RETPD.

</quote>

You said that all the retention types in the VRS must be true for the dataset 
to be retained.  In my thinking, another way of saying that is if any of the 
retention types is NOT true anymore, the dataset will be deleted.  So if you 
are using both EXPDT/RETPD and WHILECATALOG, if either of them becomes false, 
the dataset will be deleted.  Yet you said it would be kept regardless of 
RETPD/EXPDT.  Where is my disconnect?

Thanks.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mike Wood
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: New DFSMSrmm retention method

On Monday, 22 October 2012 10:08:36 UTC+1, Walter Marguccio  wrote:
> Hello all,
> ever since we migrated from CA-1 to rmm in 2008, I have been told that
> the latter would never delete a cataloged dataset, even if the dataset
> had a RETPD or EXPDT specified at allocation time. In other words, the
> VRSEL retention method would never allow the above, no matter which
> combination of VRS(es) was used.
> Has the new EXPDT retention method (introduced at z/OS 1.13 level)
> been implemented in order to satisfy such requirement ?�
>
> Walter Marguccio
Walter,  What you remember/were told, about cataloged tape data sets is not in 
fact true.
rmm can "delete" a cataloged tape data set if the matching VRS includes some 
other retention type than WHILECATALOG.
When VRSes are used, and in recent releases, when VRSEL retention method is 
used, all the retention types in the VRS must be true for a data set to be 
retained. So, if still cataloged, and the VRS specifies WHILECATALOG, a data 
set will be retained regardless of the EXPDT/RETPD.

The EXPDT retention method was introduced to provide an option for retention 
that did not require post processing other than simply checking the volume 
EXPDT vs the current date. Thus reducing the overhead of determining whether to 
scratch a tape.

Mike Wood

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