R.S, thanks for the clarification.  I was confusing control domains and usage 
domains.  We setup all our production lpars to be able to control all domains 
assigned to production lpars.  But as you state, each lpar has a unique usage 
domain assigned.

And then that’s where TKE comes in.  I can load master key to multiple domains 
at once from a single lpar for all the control domains assigned to that lpar.

Sorry to provide inaccurate information.
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Subject: Re: ICSF Master Key Management: TKE verus TSO Panels

W dniu 2013-01-11 15:23, Jousma, David pisze:
> We do use TKE, but I don’t think it matters for this conversation.
> But, correct me if I am wrong.   We don’t assign a unique crypto
> domain per lpar.   We have unique domains by environment for TECH,
> DEV and PROD environments.  So the requirement for us is to load keys 
> for each environment only per CPC.  All lpars that share the same 
> domain on the same CPC only need to be done on ONE of the systems.
>
> Even with a TKE, we still have to go into the ICSF dialogs and do the 
> SET MK function, again, once per crypto domain, per CPC.
>
> If you assign unique domain to every lpar, then yes, you have to logon 
> to each and every lpar.


Excuse me, are you sure that you are sharing crypto domains between LPARs?

AFAIK it is simply impossible.

Precisely, it is impossible to use the same domain number for the same crypto 
engine for different concurrently active LPARs.
What is possible:
- to share domain number between LPAR1 and LPAR2, but only one of them is 
activated
- share domain number, between LPAR1 and LPAR2 which are concurrently active, 
but LPAR1 use CryptoEngine 1, while LPAR2 use CryptoEngine 2.
- the LPARs reside on different CPCs.

IMHO the most typical case is all LPARs use all crypto engines and all are (can 
be) active at the same time. In such scenario domains have to be unique.

BTW: It is possible to assign more than 1 domain to a given LPAR, but z/OS 
(ICSF) can use one at a time. Change requires ICSF recycle.

Regards
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland






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