On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

> There's considerable chatter on the Net about recent Java security
> exploits:
> 
>     http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/625617
> 
>     
> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/client-security.html
> 
> I note that the CERT page thwarts IBM's policy of security-by-obscurity 
> by publishing considerable detail.  But is z/OS vulnerable?  I suppose 
> IBM won't say.  We must just until and if IBM issues an APAR with 
> conspicuously insufficient information.  What is the provenance of z/OS 
> Java?  Is it maintained by Oracle (I suspect not), or by IBM from source 
> code obtained from Oracle (on what terms?)

My very wild guess is, only if you run Java in a browser you should turn 
it off. In case of apps written in Java, I don't see a problem as long as 
they don't make contact with problematic places on the net, and even then 
exploiting such app is something very different from exploiting a browser. 
Well, um, yes and no, depending how we look at it - the principles stay 
unchanged but the exploit code would rather have to be different. So it 
would have required another CERT message or I would expect them to say it 
explicitly that both applets and apps are vulnerable.

Just MHO.

> I wonder what happens if a JavaScript exposure requires browser 
> suppliers to disable all JavaScript, and users are uable to get to 
> PayPal?

No. I run with Javascript turned off all the time. I only turn it on when 
I suppose it is ok (like, I don't think paypal is very likely to hack on 
me) and the page would not work otherwise. There are browser add-ons that 
allow me to manage JS permissions per website - like NotScripts for Opera 
I like Opera, because I can easily turn various extra functions on and off 
by quick menu. So, when I want to watch video on y-tube, I turn plugins 
on, when I stop watching I turn them off and browse somewhere else.

When I am very suspicious I check selected pages with text browsers, like 
lynx and w3m and elinks (usually only one of them).

Regards,
Tomasz Rola

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