If it is a physical dump, is there a way to search for matching VTOC
entries on the tape?

Or could a SPHERE keyword get all associated VSAM files?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> wrote:
> If the original problem was that the dataset was inadvertently deleted, then
> you would have lost the catalog and VVDS entries as well.  But if you know
> the approximate time of deletion and have SMF records from that period, you
> could use freeware DAF (Dataset Audit Facility) from Michael Cleary
> https://sites.google.com/site/michaeljosephcleary/home/freeware
> to scan SMF records and see if an INDEX component was deleted at the same
> time and what volume(s) it was on.
>
> If all you have is a physical volume DUMP as stated, dss TYPRUN=NORUN would
> probably be unable to provide any CLUSTER association info, and the INDEX
> component might be on another volume and not even in the same dump.  Short
> of lfinding both DATA and INDEX components in the same dump, recognizing you
> had a KSDS would be difficult without either the old catalog entry or the
> original IDCAMS DEFINE statement.
>
> One requirement we had was that every production (and test counterpart) VSAM
> dataset had to have a corresponding member in a "known" PDS that gave the
> IDCAMS statements for redefining the data set (and any alternate indices),
> so that in-house utilities could reorganize the file if necessary, or so you
> would at least have some place to start in event of dataset loss and there
> would be no question about the data set attributes.
>
> I've never considered trying to recover KSDS records from just the DATA
> component from a physical volume dump, but if this was a KSDS with INDEX on
> a different volume that could be the case you face. If it can be done by
> faking it as an ESDS, at best you could only recover the data records in
> physical CI order, not key order, as any CI splits and CA splits in the
> original KSDS would render the logical ordering of the CI's unknown without
> the corresponding INDEX CI's.
>     JC Ewing
>
> On 01/24/2013 12:39 PM, willie bunter wrote:
>>
>> Boris,
>>   Thanks for the valuable information.   One last question.  With the
>> problem I encountered, since the dataset was restored from a physical DFDSS
>> backup, only the DATA component was restored. I tried the LISTCAT of the
>> .DATA component and since there was no cluster the LISTCAT was unsuccessful.
>> In this case, how would I be able to tell what type of VSAM dsn it is?
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Boris Lenz <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:00:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: DIFFERENTIATION OF VSAM DSNS
>>
>>
>> On Thu, January 24, 2013 18:25, willie bunter wrote:
>>>
>>> I checked the LISTCAT however I didn't see anything.  Any suggestions?
>>
>> Examine the output of LISTCAT ENT(/) ALL.
>>
>> KSDS:
>> - has DATA+INDEX ASSOCIATIONS in the CLUSTER section.
>> - has an INDEXED ATTRIBUTE in the DATA section.
>>
>> VRRDS:
>> - has DATA+INDEX ASSOCIATIONS in the CLUSTER section.
>> - has a NUMBERED ATTRIBUTE in the DATA section.
>>
>> ESDS:
>> - has only a DATA ASSOCIATION in the CLUSTER section.
>> - has a NONINDEXED ATTRIBUTE in the DATA section.
>>
>> LDS:
>> - has only a DATA ASSOCIATION in the CLUSTER section.
>> - has a LINEAR ATTRIBUTE in the DATA section.
>>
>> RRDS:
>> - has only a DATA ASSOCIATION in the CLUSTER section.
>> - has a NUMBERED ATTRIBUTE in the DATA section.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Boris
>>
>>
> ...
>
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> Joel C. Ewing,    Bentonville, AR       [email protected]
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