High priority topics would be things like oddball hardware, docs dealing with RPQ features, maintenance docs, PCM and 3rd party software and hardware.
Medium priority is marketing fluff, announcements, and not so technical stuff. Low priority topics would by OS and language information, except for oddball things (like 8100 and pre S/360). And generally, older is better. Honestly, if you would want to donate the whole pile (with the same condition that it all gets archived, of course), no catalog of the items would really need to be done. Some of us work on the shotgun mentality - take it all, and expect a few good hits. When I go and fetch document caches for Wild Hare (the Data General archive), I can bring them 400 pounds of mixed DG paper, and if they can extract just one or two things not already in the DG archive - success! Any extras often get donated to other interested collectors. -- Will On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 8:18 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've got, e.g., OS/360, SVS, MVS, hardware, manuals with 3 shelves of other > vendors, all uncataloged. If I'm going to have to catalog them then I'd like > to start with the ones likely to have the highest priority. Any guidance as > to what is most likely to be of interest?, > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of > William Donzelli [[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: An older device query - still using?? > > Yes, a gigantic backlog, and the current situation has everything at a > standstill. Al literally can not get to his scanner, as the museum is > locked up. > > There are a few other archivists that provide acceptable high quality > scans to bitsavers specs - maybe I will see if one of them can deal > with your manuals. > > -- > Will > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 7:56 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Doesn't bitsavers have a huge backlog? I'm still waiting for manuals I gave > > several years ago to show up on their site. In particular I'm still waiting > > for the scans of the PL/I logic manuals so that I can annotate > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3/source/STOWBLDL.ASM with register equates. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of > > William Donzelli [[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:19 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: An older device query - still using?? > > > > Bitsavers are the ones to do the scans, but currently all of the > > scanning equipment is locked up in the closed museum (and driving Al > > nuts). I can see if any of the other archivists could tackle the job. > > > > But yes, you have goodies that would fill in some holes. > > > > -- > > Will > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:14 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If you're willing to pay the shipping, scan and OCR within a few months, > > > I've got hundreds of manuals, mostly IBM, that I'd be willing to give up > > > in exchange for sending me and bitsavers the PDF files. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > > > of William Donzelli [[email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:50 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: An older device query - still using?? > > > > > > Hey, that's my video. Go watch it! > > > > > > And remember, folks, I am always looking for this old stuff for the > > > collection - mostly anything pre-Z (I set up that limit so I do not > > > overcollect). > > > > > > Anything from a box of IBM indicator lights (thanks, recent donor!) to > > > a 3090. I would make that happen. > > > > > > -- > > > Will > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:23 AM Parwez Hamid <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The 3540 was a BUS & TAG attached device. I am not saying that its > > > > still in use by anyone. 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Big > > > > Disk Week. Close. 30. Posted by. u/uniservo. 2 years ago. Archived [Big > > > > Disk Week] IBM 3540 S/370 channel attached 8" floppy drive. Big Disk > > > > Week. 10 comments. share. save hide report. 98% Upvoted. This thread is > > > > archived. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast ... > > > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/15EeihPYXHZ_AVdzr8FA2V6KcvpgxOrNDL_M2k1cQc1vXxFIC8f4MC4RUCq_0GKwk5DJmEadjq938ROKnGbhmX4gfICgv2OWh4Q7Cqft_ASBNbvqg3nON7ayc63S-aldlqh4MDMDhw3ljcbnFx4I0pZ7yomuxdn0UQfu5w-UrpMDO085ISVEPYLYtfYfK6LRanRK2ntZzPXb8beaAzalRN6ovayEyaojmYQzlZEqeK2aYKXcm4bDtExcoOTJf8ReAcJhQ2ZoT-7o1GUBQnDisNZsLS_N1EndNzVNTAPRIqa7ySR_DxLRpPhKwP3jo1WHveoG2OO4xUsY1dI7WsLJqtcWNBjTqyEb5FJLma7HAK13PeHt4m8wbfJcYW56XlGOo9pqZyoQiPhrErBSifCVrZwb8-f2QoY10nf5Oqffk6noTCZCN0DmGTZZ0yC9S_vgOTiB0L5azUOKdQVNIrP9QqA/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Parwez Hamid > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on > > > > behalf of R.S. <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: 13 May 2020 15:55 > > > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: An older device query - still using?? > > > > > > > > Excuse me, what is IBM 3540? > > > > This is mainframe forum so I checked all historical DASD, including drum > > > > device and 2305 (which is not a drum) and found no such device. I also > > > > reviewed disks for small systems (S3 System 32, System 34... AS/400) and > > > > still no such device. Finally I found ~500MB SCSI attached 3,5" disk > > > > with such number. > > > > However I still don't know what is 3540. Any clue? > > > > > > > > > > > > Update: I found it. It is diskette (yes, 8" floppy diskette drive). > > > > Where can I find the reference about it? In new shining z/OS 2.4 JCL > > > > Reference! > > > > > > > > Wow! > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I dare to ask about this "still supported" device: > > > > Was it Bus & Tag attached? > > > > What parameters has the diskette? capacity, cylinders #, track length... > > > > How it was recognized by operating system? Was it another DASD volume? > > > > Every diskette was separate volume as tape cart? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Radoslaw Skorupka > > > > Lodz, Poland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W dniu 12.05.2020 o 21:40, Marna WALLE pisze: > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > We had an internal small discussion wondering if there were any > > > > > customers that still used these devices (the youngest of which went > > > > > end-of-service in 2014, from what I can find). I wanted to extend > > > > > this conversation outside of IBM, to those that might have firsthand > > > > > current knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > Here's the devices I'm wondering about: > > > > > > > > > > 1287/1288 - IBM Optical reader and page reader respectively > > > > > 3540 - IBM Disk device > > > > > 3886 - IBM Optical Character reader > > > > > 3890 - IBM Magnetic Ink Reader > > > > > 3895 - IBM Printer device > > > > > > > > > > If you or someone you know *currently* has one of the above devices > > > > > in use, would you mind contacting me? I'm not interested in the > > > > > past, when I know these were once-popular devices. For instance, all > > > > > LinkedIn hits I read were all "prior experience" type of references. > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested in current 2020 usage of them. 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