I don't see any Multics there, and I doubt that it would be easy to port 
Multics to EPSILON.

While S/38 et al were spinoff's from אֶפֶס (FS), I don't believe that it is 
accurate to say that they *were* FS.

My first reaction was that EPSILON was a poster child for premature binding; I 
was reminded of a project at TI (SYMBOL? SYMBL?) that had a compiler in 
hardware; fixing bugs could get expensive.

To be fair, that was 24 bit addressing within each space; there was no limit 
set for the number of spaces. Still, I agree that it lacked vision and was a 
step backward from the 360/67.

It didn't look like the author had thought through all of the issues. It looked 
either too ambitious or not ambitious enough.

Was EPSILON the origin of ECPS:VSE?


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Tony Harminc [[email protected]]
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Subject: EPSILON?

I stumbled across a book on bitsavers
http://secure-web.cisco.com/12Ot81bfjTTLWLXKFiRjoxUjnGi5pm87OqM23I4hRH7Bh1Ynxv5VXSug_kTE_6fCMo8T80jkyhiNj_f31h-BMikETYTSNb47viP2gCpWLa7OkT8xk8JKqg5plHvhEk7vm-RkPK73IO-4aqhR2zjyLfzKx8BJ0piWrUPyN6vDrII7c3Hb_ZfqKXrb3TVE2T0MAxtbLwTVpr7Nb4JkWpwGLWHFNJl4xjJDVV9EjENC-b25_elOC_RfI14no_zgusZYFu_Jk5cBvpEZToRCg0h7i55axduL_Bz9P2l7O-LTR9whRJfzcq_vK21uOQDYSMR9064kavZUSPcJJwxsjfLb_rL9RVbMj3xG2bon6uxgcywtACvvzslgsLgXjAnOpb4ryaZ5dfTp-rfnw5VA5TWoRAUjnzD3fGIcWLQnk6P2PkSXzZuj5ffXXRGHPYQXIzb30/http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.org%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F370%2FEPSILON%2FPrinciples_Of_Operation_The_EPSILON_System_Oct1980.pdf
dated 1976 that describes a follow-on system to S/360. It's an
intriguing hybrid of S/360, Multics, and maybe IBM i (aka FS,
System/38, AS/400, etc.) with some nifty ideas. On the other hand it
seems to have quite limited vision in some ways, e.g. it has 24-bit
main storage addressing, some concepts seem excessively hardcoded, and
it's not obvious how it would be extended compatibly.

The author is R.B. Talmadge, and there's no indication of his or her
affiliation. I'd never heard of EPSILON before - does anyone here know
anything about it? It was uploaded to bitsavers only in 2017.

[Ah - I see an R.B. Talmadge wrote an article "Design of an integrated
programming and operating system, Part II: The assembly program and
its language" in the IBM Systems Journal in 1963. That seems to be
about the 7094 and IBJOB.]

Tony H.

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