How is that better than UTC? Charles
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? No, the *RIGHT* way to do things is to record the time and date with the same offset, record the offset and record the time zone name.Since the date was already in local time, it was a reasonable compromise to record the time in local time. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? > ISPF, JES, SYSLOG, OPERLOG, etc. have been recording time as local time forever The *right* way to do things is to *record* the time as UTC and then *display* it any way the user wants: UTC, local to the LPAR, local to the user, etc. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIME a data set was created? On 5/30/2020 7:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > What's the option to select FMT8/9 DSCBs in: > o JCL DD statements? > o TSO ALLOCATE? > o BPXWDYN This functionality has been around since 2008. You select it with the EATTR= parameter, which is available through JCL and dynamic allocation techniques. We supply it automatically via SMS ACS routines, so no one ever has to think about it. > Does IBM provide a utility, API, or sample code to format DS9TIME > as "hh:mm:ss.uuuuuu zone" for display? I assume the time is displayed in all the usual places where the extended attributes are displayed e.g., ISPF. > > So on 2020-11-01, 5.40e9 might display as 01:30:00 MDT, > and 9.00e9 might display as 01:30:00 MST, right? > > "*local* time"!? WTF!? Where did IBM designers have their heads stuck? That's the easiest and most understandable way. ISPF, JES, SYSLOG, OPERLOG, etc. have been recording time as local time forever and ever and I'm not hearing a lot of complaints. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://secure-web.cisco.com/15-u3LQmgzqX9Exjn0D5_9uaazpUwA3UaZjANphrIKh5Rmg qVZUYPu5s8OQ97AKjDZANVd-rpfnoAc9DIGSUXnZe9ROiKGqJw40doTAYj_qyCvt6xRZObsqb8P1 f_qKuXKg9Kp-MRoNSUxoQvtaMH5ICuBzqcmxH5cY2KNsIQJyxlpIesGFBS6codZrnWKH8Sb46ckz aRzwP3Nz5Iz2s_x988fFtfhSgA1xYQWInwOXT2VENws9rTkU99QM_Y-i4Zqmn8HBLuyMvvt7h9aZ 49xxregy3A4OwTYGiAtOt93u2r64vEU_vPuYncKBfU8hc9qNNbCExa-Upnyi060neRdGhO_zqWEe dUZhlztlAPS3-hMiomOQfPtXyK4bleWWAKe3ppNDpaVwDLXe2Wg6GjCPt6LVQ-PLEDaEyAGXtz4J pObFt_xFetzHqYNJMKSKba/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.phoenixsoftware.com%2F ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
