I can speak from experience. GRS Ring performance sucks with even 2 LPARs 
compared to GRS STAR.

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I've never gone here. The impression I got from the folks on this list was that 
GRS ring performance was abysmal for more than 2 lpars.

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> It's all about the cost.  Especially right now, there is just no money
> to put into the box.  If we knew for sure that the software CF would
> only take 1MSU or less, then we would do it in a heartbeat, but it's a
> base model z13s so there are only 13MSU's int he entire complex,
> taking even one away is a big deal, but IBM will only guarantee that
> it wouldn't take more than "a couple".  We don't have a couple to give
> up.  Even just 2 is more than 15%.  The goal is to install GRS (free) so that 
> we can drop MIM.
>
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 11:15:45 +0200, R.S.
> <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote:
>
> >W dniu 01.06.2020 o 02:27, Brian Westerman pisze:
> >> The box isn't maxed out, but it's pretty close.  It's a base z13s
> >> and no
> money to upgrade it.  The cards are a cheap way to get by (they are
> under
> $400 with $0 increase in maintenance costs), whereas the cost of a CF
> is far greater.  We can't use the software CF option (build a CF lpar
> without a actual CF processor) because that would take us over the
> tipping point and no budget to add any more MSU's to resolve it.
> Maybe in a year or so, but for now that's not a viable option.
> >
> >OK, we know it's poor configuration. Old machine, small one.
> >So, what is the reason for Sysplex? What goal to achieve?
> >Sysplex takes some CPU, so for "pretty close to maxed out" CPC it is
> >not very fine.
> >IMHO it would be reasonable to consider purchase second hand CPC as
> >standalone CF and some cards. Of course the question about the goal
> >is still valid.
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