Hi Lizette,
I'm the OP. :-)
My expectation is that when a job gets submitted with TYPRUN=COPY, I get a
listing of the job - including all the JCL and in-stream SYSIN etc.
TYPRUN=COPY is used because TYPRUN=SCAN doesn't include in-stream SYSIN data.
I'm not really that interested in which vendor spool display software you are
using, except to make sure it isn't limited to the vendor we use. At this
point based on the responses I've seen, TYPRUN=COPY works like it always has if
you're running z/OS prior to 2.4. Under 2.4, it's hit and miss, TYPRUN=COPY
works for some customers and it doesn't for others, only displaying the JOB
card. Most people use SDSF and since we don't, I wanted to know if the problem
was limited to my spool display software. Since it isn't, and others have
confirmed that the problem is only at 2.4, it appears to me to be a problem
more in JES2 than in the spool display software.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a printer in my sandbox so I can't test to
see if printing the output from TYPRUN=COPY prints the entire output or if it
is limited to just the JOB card like the display.
Rex
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z/OS 2.4 and SDSF question
This is an interesting discussion.
So TYPRUN=COPY is just suppose to copy the JCL to SYSOUT. I am not sure what
the expectation is by the OP
But on my z/OS 2.3 system with SDSF (I know he wants to know about other vendors
I can see the JCL as part of the output of the TYPRUN=COPY
If I have it use the MSGCLASS to our JCL repository it is in the Repository as
expected.
Once we upgrade to V2.4 (or other) I will repeat the process.
But for me a z/OS V2.3 - works as expected
Lizette
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Al
Loeffler
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 2.4 and SDSF question
I get the same result under z/OS 2.4. I submit the following job:
//ALOEFTST JOB $,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=Y,TYPRUN=COPY
//IEFBR14 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
SDSF has a record count of 12 on the Held Output Display panel, but only shows
11 when the job is selected. The JESJCLIN DDNAME has an incorrect number for
the Record Count.
//ALOEFTST JOB $,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=Y,TYPRUN=COPY J0056548
------ JES2 JOB STATISTICS ------
2 CARDS READ
11 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
0 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
J E S 2 J O B L O G -- S Y S T E M X E 1 0 -- N O D
E N J E X E 1 0
11.24.16 J0056548 ---- WEDNESDAY, 17 JUN 2020 ----
11.24.16 J0056548 IRR010I USERID ALOEF IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.
Regards,
Al Loeffler
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Pommier, Rex
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS 2.4 and SDSF question
Hello list,
I have a "does it work" question. We don't run SDSF, instead have a competing
product. As part of our testing of 2.4, one of my coworkers submitted a job with
TYPRUN=COPY on the job card and found it doesn't work. Under 2.2, we get the entire
input stream before the JES2 job statistics. Under 2.4, all we get is the JOB card then
the statistics report. The spool display product says all the lines are there, but they
won't show. When we contacted our vendor about this, they said SDSF displays the same
thing, working under earlier releases, but under 2.4, only the JOB card is
printed/displayed. Can somebody who is running 2.4 and SDSF (or a third party SDSF
competitor) confirm this for me?
Our vendor has a case open with IBM but I'd like to know if others are seeing
this situation. I'm not second guessing the vendor, just curious if others
have run into the situation.
TIA,
Rex
Example:
Job run under both 2.2 and 2.4.
//RRPBR14 JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TYPRUN=COPY
//S1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//D1 DD DISP=OLD,DSN=SFG.$AVRS.V52.KSDS
Spool display under both 2.2 and 2.4 says the output is 14 lines long.
2.2 spool display (all 14 lines displayed including entire JCL stream):
//RRPBR14 JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), JOB03289
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TYPRUN=COPY
//S1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//D1 DD DISP=OLD,DSN=SFG.$AVRS.V52.KSDS
------ JES2 JOB STATISTICS ------
4 CARDS READ
11 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
0 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
J E S 2 J O B L O G -- S Y S T E M Z O S 2 -- N O D
E Z 1 4 J E S 2
13.28.58 JOB03289 ---- TUESDAY, 16 JUN 2020 ----
13.28.58 JOB03289 IRR010I USERID RRP IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.
2.4 spool display (only 12 lines displayed) :
//RRPBR14 JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), JOB05572
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TYPRUN=COPY
------ JES2 JOB STATISTICS ------
4 CARDS READ
11 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
0 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
J E S 2 J O B L O G -- S Y S T E M Z O S 2 --
N O D E N 1
13.29.19 JOB05572 ---- TUESDAY, 16 JUN 2020 ----
13.29.19 JOB05572 IRR010I USERID RRP IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.
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