For those not aware of this IBM has been offering free web COBOL classes and 
have been getting hundreds of people in attendance, many of whom are new 
mainframe programmers.
They are also offering a free class on the IDZ/Data Studio products  (ECLIPSE 
based products for Cobol, SQL  and  other languages).
The IDZ class is Monday morning at 9am and you can listen in without 
pre-registering.
They same URL is used for the Cobol class tue and Thursday at 9am.

https://ibm.webex.com/webappng/sites/ibm/dashboard/pmr/jsayles


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Rupert Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

Yup. I'm a C, PL/1, assembly and C bigot myself, but the plain truth is that 
COBOL is mostly just a wordier way of doing the same things  that other 
languages do. And re-writing, if it isn't done very thoughfully, tends to make 
things worse in my experience.

Rupert



On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 18:34, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

> The claim that COBOL is English like is every bit as bogus as the
> claim that rewriting existing COBOL applications in another language
> will magically fix problems of underfunding, understaffing and general
> mismanagement.
>
> BTW, when the language du jour is out of fashion, will they want to
> rewrite the application again, with the same pretext? And will they
> ensure that this time they have adequate documentation and adequate
> configuration control?
>
>
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