I took me a while before I realized that, of course, kg is a unit of mass, not of weight; you weigh tings in kilogram-force (kgf or kgF).
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Jackson, Rob [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? My high school physics teacher would be rolling in his grave about now. You don't weigh anything in kilograms. :) First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are warm, 30s are hot. I get kilometers but I think in miles. For short measurements I like centimeters and millimeters, but I couldn't tell you how tall I am in cm. I'm happy in either pounds or kilos, but I'd have to calculate to tell you how many kg I weigh. But centigrade makes complete sense to me. --- Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313 /* If you read the New Testament with an Old-Covenant heart, it will be just Law to you. Likewise, if you read the Old Testament with a New-Covenant heart, you will see Christ in all of it. -Rick Joyner, "The Apostolic Ministry" */ -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 23:23 It disturbs me that I agree with Shmuel three times in as many days. Tony, what's your mass here lately after Insanity-19? Let's have it in slugs, please, since that's the unit. Take you a dram and a scruple; add in a grain or two for precision, but make sure you convert it to mass. American standard--Imperial units; they're rubbish. Abject garbage. SI is not a fad, despite its origins. No fan of the "French;" no fan of "Trump;" no fan of anything political. But SI, revised a couple times or three, is a beautiful system of units in which one may compute physics. If you disagree, then I assert you have a challenge understanding many things about physics. I'm talking about mechanics and fluid dynamics. I'm too stupid for E&M, although the same equivalency attempts apply there. P.S. Apparently Imperial units have been redefined as relative to SI. Imagine that. https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Pm_NdRGjzh-gLPPSLRoo6uIFi2Zmzjn-DhAiYu7AFOvpzg1hS9s3rFWeJDelnUf-NPXN8vCxWk_eonnSq_hkj8tE9FRowi9Ufa1_YWYHDGdb-G5dR5VYahRIvmjnyo-oxSoXI3R_hXxdLU12IVc2vXzxjuZvHmVf4gIALNIWvuih1uzUP7wKDZ5-l6NakML4_k_bIIAWL3nOFjxO7Qa-FVlPiF_bLuF8cP5QGalWWwSedY63qwJVM-ejwaTo4MJfXd_vl8lp-n4uIQ3bRrqdldRDU1SqqDdPYSjEs8MwcbmN4rB5BKw-CtQjqgtAra2O24svgDIV--u1PnIj88J_JHKNi5PDKtFkfS9oEKziIWnTSpwZ5ekmvdoweF4BCKsYy6Ah12hsCqS-vM5yUH-r9LQ4Ft90Fz1wQzSfW7pdM78tePYEyc9jdlgTlRIbJzsLwl0AFzIIRK_fmWD4QLDbyA/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.britannica.com%2Ftopic%2FImperial-unit P.P.S. This reminds me of many conversations with my father. He absolutely couldn't stand this type of thing, i.e. SI being obviously superior. I don't get it. It is what it is. As a disclaimer, I'm not a complete bigot. I say miles and yards; but I have this nasty habit of converting them to meters in my mind every time I say them. The one thing I cannot get used to in every-day life is Celsius degrees. I think in Fahrenheit degrees. Oddly enough, since they're exactly the same thing, I find it easier to talk in Kelvins rather than Celsius degrees. Maybe I just like starting at zero. :) I couldn't tell you what absolute zero in Fahrenheit is; I guess I never cared. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 5:02 PM The practical value doesn't depend on how it started. Yes, I could say all sorts of things about how the mob interpreted "Liberté, égalité, fraternité", but it doesn't change the fact that nobody understands the English system of units. How many gills in a gallon? (That's a trick question; it depends on which kind of gallon.) How many ounces in a ton? 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