Generally by litigation going up to the Supreme Court, with arguments 
involving, e.g., the 9th, 10th and 14th Amendments, to say nothing of the 
interpretation of terms in the base Constitution.


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Except speed limits only became a thing long after y'all got together.

I wonder how deciding what is a state, county, township prerogative and
what is a federal one works. Probably on a (legal) case by (legal) case
basis.

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Contrast the US with the EU and you may begin to grasp the issue.We
started as a dozen different colonies with diverged interests, and the
Federal system is just one of the compromises that are set in concrete.
Changing them is not just politically impossible, but would be a
logistical nightmare if approved.


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Years?

Federal limits, state limits... This is something I don't understand.
Standarization is good thing and common rules are easier to follow.
I just checked - 85mph in Texas, even for trucks. And 55mph in District
of Columbia (not to mention Guam). From the other hand Residential Areas
limits vary from 15 to 55mph.
Howeve it is matter of simple table with different values for each row
(state), because the columns (rules) vary also. That lead to confusion.
It's even more complex than baseball and non-SI measures! ;-)

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Lodz, Poland






W dniu 05.08.2020 o 08:34, Bob Bridges pisze:
> Technically the 55mph limit wasn't a federal law; Rex is right that
speed limits are set and enforced by each state.  But in the '70s Congress
(the Federal Congress) passed a law that Federal highway money would not
be forthcoming to states that allowed their speed limits to exceed 55mph.
Most states went along.  The 55mph speed limit is long gone now;
interstates I drive on east of the Mississippi river are mostly 65 and 70,
except through dicey parts of cities where it can go as low as 55 or even
45.  I saw a piece of I-10 in AZ that was 75, or maybe 80, but that's all
I've seen myself.
>
> I remember my driver's-ed teacher in high school telling us that in some
western states the statutory speed limit used to be 120, and even that was
enforced spottily.
>
> Before the 55 limit, in 1972 and at the mature age of 17, I hitchhiked
across the country.  (NC to CA; for Europeans, it's about 4100 km.)  A guy
who picked me up in Texas had just had a new engine put into his car, and
he  didn't want to go too fast until he'd broken in the engine a bit.  But
the roads in Texas are straight and flat; he kept creeping up over 100mph
without realizing it.  Then we'd hit a very slight curve, the car would
make a slight noise as it pulled against friction toward the outside of
the road, he'd glance down at the speedometer and slow down again.  All
very interesting to a boy who'd never gone that fast before.  But of
course in such flat land it didn't really seem that fast.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* Wink at small faults; remember thou hast great ones.  -Poor Richard
*/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 09:09
>
> The 55 MPH limit was a federal law designed to force people to save fuel
> by driving slower during the 70's when the fuel crisis hit the US. And,
> we were stuck with for a long time even after the fuel crisis was over.
> Some studies showed that while it saved fuel for autos, it cost fuel for
> long-haul trucking.
>
> Just like the 18% interest rates of the 70's, we hope to never see a
> national 55MPH speed limit again.
>
> --- Pommier, Rex wrote on 8/4/20 9:01 AM:
>> Speed limits are different in the States based on which state you're
in.  Each state can set its own speed limit.  I am in South Dakota, and
most smaller 2 lane roads are 55 MPH.  Many of the state 2 lane roads are
65, and the interstates have an 80 MPH speed limit, the equivalent of
about 130 KPH.  So the divided highways - at least in South Dakota - are
reasonable.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of R.S.
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 7:23 AM
>>
>> My opinion: I like american cars and roads.
>> However I don't understand common speed limit 55 mph which is in my
opinion too low for the road on desert.
>>
>> BTW:
>> Here in Poland default limit on highway is 140 km/h.
>> However in Germany default is ...your sanity. No speed limit. Most cars
have factory limit at 250 km/h, but not luxury ones. And yes, it is legal
to drive 300 km/h Of course this is for highways only. And speed limit
signs may reduce it.
>



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