[email protected] (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
> VNET wiki reference
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_VNET
>
> misc. past posts mentioning internal network
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 Spacewar! on S/360

warning: vnet topic drift.

JES2 had inherited some networking support from HASP that had "TUCC"
identifier in the source statements. It used spare entries in the (255
entry) psuedo spool device table ... for network defintions
... typically able to define 160 or so entries. However, 23Jun69
unbundling announcement started to charge for application software
(company did make the case that kernel software would still be free).
JES2 had fairly heavyweight development and pricing policies required
that monthly price cover the ongoing costs plus the upfront development
costs. Even with inherited lot of networking support from university
hasp ... there was no forecasted price for JES2 networking that covered
its cost (company normally did three forecast levels, high, medium, and
low ... assumption was that number of customers increased as price went
down ... but there was no price times number of customers ... that
covered the upfront JES networking costs).

VNET had modern layered architecture (compared to JES and other of the
period) ... had no limit on nodes and also could support "drivers" that
talked to other infrastructures. At the time, the internal network had
more nodes than could be defined in JES ... so the basis for the
internal network was all VNET ... but VNET did have drivers that could
talk to JES as boundary nodes (JES couldn't be trusted at other than
boundary ... since it would trash traffic if either the origin or
destination node wasn't in its table ... even at boundary, JES would
trash traffic where that JES was the destination ... if the originating
node wasn't in its table). JES lack of clean layered architecture also
resulted in traffic between two JES systems at different versions would
crash the MVS system. This became increasingly common as the internal
network started to pass 1000 nodes world-wide. As a result, protocol
conversion routines were added to the VNET JES drivers ... which would
convert from any JES format to the specific format required by the
specific JES version that it was directly talking to.

This
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_VNET

makes mentioned of 19.2kbit trans-atlantic satellite circuit. This
contributed to the infamous case of traffic from San Jose JES system
crashing Hursley MVS systems (because the releases were at different
level). The crashes was blamed on the Hursley VNET system ... because
they had failed to start the correct JES driver that converted to the
format required by the Hursley JES release.

In any case, this was after the FS failure and the mad rush to get
products into the 370 pipeline ... as well as POK convincing corporate
to kill the vm370 product, shutdown the burlington mall vm370
development group and transfer all the people to POK for MVS/XA (or
otherwise MVS/XA wouldn't meet ship schedule nearly 7-8yrs later;
Endicott managed to save the vm370 product mission, but had to
reconstitute a development group from scratch ... online share archives
has things to say about vm370 product code quality during the period).
As a result, corporate wasn't approving the announcement and release of
VNET as customer product.

The JES group finally convinced corporate to allow VNET release/announce
as part of a pricing gimick ... it would be announced as a combined
JES+VNET product ... where JES & VNET were both priced the same (little
obfuscation since VNET did have JES drivers). Then the combined JES+VNET
forecast times the price was finally larger than the JES development
costs (VNET costs being nearly negligible) ... as an aside, this wasn't
the only time that the slight-of-hand happened using vm370 products to
cover MVS product costs. misc. past posts mentioning hasp, jes, nji, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

besides the story here about Edson talking to ARPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

the internal network was larger than the arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until sometime late 85 or early 86. I've
pontificated it was partially because vnet had layered implementation
with effectively ability for gateway in every node ... something that
the internet didn't get until the great cutover to tcp/ip on 1Jan1983
(at the time arpanet was approx. 100 nodes and 250 hosts, while the
internal network was rapidly approching 1000 ... which it passed that
summer). again, past posts mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
post with copy of vnet 1000 node announcement 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#3
and 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

above also includes other weekly new node announcements during 1983 as
well as summary of all internal locations that had new nodes added
during 1983. There were also posters and desk ornaments as part of the
1000 node event ... picture here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts

one of the major reasons for number of internet nodes passing internal
network ... was PCs and workstations appearing as internet nodes ...
while the communication group was in its battle to restrict workstations
and PCs to terminal emulation (doing its best to fight off distributed
and client/server computing). misc. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation

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virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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