Yes - we used one years ago - as part of a govt audit - one year it got 
accidentally run multiple times and the multiple failed passwords exceeded the 
RACF/ACF2 threshhold - thousands of accounts were locked until unlocked the 
next day ... I do not have firsthand knowledge of the name of the product, only 
that it existed  

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA 
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266


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Isn't there a program someone wrote (talked about here many years ago) that can 
try various passwords until something matches the hashed value?
  If that's the case, hashing doesn't really do as much good as people think it 
does, once someone gets hold of the RACF dataset of course.

On 1/10/2021 7:57 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:

> Here's a pedantic point: RACF doesn't actually know what the user's 
> password is -- thank goodness. RACF can only determine whether a 
> particular password or passphrase string mathematically corresponds to 
> the hashed value (derived from previous input) that RACF stores. True, 
> good hashing functions minimize collisions, and RACF uses good hashing 
> functions.

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