A REXX edit macro, that's great! In Vim I can position my cursor over a
function or keyword and press 'gd' to goto the defintion. It also has
plugins for code completion etc. All of this in a TUI. Intellij IDEA
is so advanced that it lints code while you type and flags problems. Use
a keyboard shortcut and it refactors the code. One of the most useful
features in modern editors is multiple cursors.
This is achieved in Vim using visual block mode. ISPF has no equivalent
and never will as 3270 is a half-duplex protocol. I'm not knocking ISPF.
I use it all the time. I would much rather use the
SDSF ISPF UI as opposed to of the z/OSMF GUI. The command line is more
efficient. But when it comes to editors, ISPF does not shine brightly.
It's incredibly limited which is why I don't understand
why people want to use the likes of SPF-PC to emulate ISPF on other
platforms when the native tools are so much better. It comes down to
familiarity and a reluctance to invest time to learn new things.
That's a fact and many of my colleagues openly admit it. They've reached
a stage in their career where they simply have no desire to change the
way they work.
On 28/01/2021 9:28 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Isn't writing code macros a bit dated?
No. Aren't editors that don't allow writing macros a bit dated? Trivial example:
/* REXX from TSPF - not tested in ISPF */
address ISREDIT
"MACRO"
"CURSOR = 1 1"
"(NEW) = LINENUM .ZCSR"
"(LAST) = LINENUM .ZLAST"
"(NLINE) = LINE" NEW
do while NEW ¬= LAST
OLD =NEW
OLINE=NLINE
"CURSOR =" OLD+1
"(NEW) = LINENUM .ZCSR"
"(NLINE) = LINE "NEW
if NLINE=OLINE
then do
'DELETE' NEW
'CURSOR =' OLD
"(NEW) = LINENUM .ZCSR"
end
"(LAST) = LINENUM .ZLAST"
end
In Vim I can record macros.
In ISPF I don't need them.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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On 28/01/2021 8:25 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Yes, and you can write macros for it. Still, when you have ISPF available
there's little call to use TSO EDIT.
Isn't writing code macros a bit dated? In Vim I can record macros.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Tony Harminc [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:00 PM
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Subject: Re: ISPF for mainframe Linux
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 11:21, Tom Brennan <[email protected]> wrote:
That's probably true, but around 2005 when I didn't have enough z/OS
work to do, I moved about half my time over to the dark side of AIX,
Linux, and at least a couple of other Unixes that I can't remember -
working with a bunch of folks who never touched a mainframe. I don't
remember a single complaint about vi from them. I did ask why (in the
world) they used it, and they said because it's always available by
default - no install needed.
TSO "EDIT" is always available on z/OS... Doesn't even require a 3270!
Tony H.
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