There are many ISPF, Wylbur and XEDIT clones; I don't know of one that can't 
deal with column ranges. There are even some free clones.


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Subject: Re: Assembler - Authorized program debug

Hi David,
I like VI(m) too.
I'd like to point out, however, that ISPF and XEDIT allow the user to
restrict edits to a column range.
This capability AFAIK is ONLY available on Mainframe.

Regards,
David

On 2021-02-28 02:45, David Crayford wrote:
> On 27/02/2021 8:22 am, Tom Brennan wrote:
>> You take that back!! :)
>>
>> Sorry... I just used vi a minute ago and although I finally
>> remembered shift-g to move to the bottom, I had to goggle how to move
>> back to the top.  gg  Of course! It's so obvious.
>
>
> :1 will also jump to the top. 'g' isn't a command, it's used to escape
> although people assume it's goto as it's used to jump around the buffer.
>
> I can remember when I first started learning vim I didn't find it
> particularly intuitive. Once I got over the initial learning curve it
> all made perfect sense. People like vim because its design philosophy
> echos that of Unix. In both Unix and in vim, you have a collection of
> atomic commands that perform one task well. More complicated tasks are
> done by combining the smaller predefined tasks. For example, the vim
> command dl deletes the next character,  dw deletes the next word, and
> db deletes the previous word. Here, d represents the delete operator
> and must be followed by a movement task. lt means move to the next
> character. w for the next word and b for the previous word. d2b will
> delete the previous 2 words. dtx will delete every character up to the
> next x in the current line.  Once you grok this you won't want to use
> another editor as you will find them unproductive. I also use
> Slickedit and Intellij IDEA and I have Vim emulation running in both.
> The key design is maximum economy of keystrokes. Your hand should be
> glued to the home row. I've remapped the Windows caps lock key to ESC
> (single key) and CNTL (multiple keys) to make this easier.
>
> BTW, no need to google. Vim has excellent help. Just type :h motion
> and use CNTL-] to follow links.
>
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