Thank you Dave.
Disturb me a little "the code is not fully developed" sentence, but we are now over the big copy(140 volumes with 3 errors) .
Thank you again .

On 14.03.2013 17:32, David Devine wrote:
Hello,
further to this query and the oddity of Optimize being tolerated for dfdss full copy but not 
documented, i emailed one of the guys who present's the "What's new in dss...." 
share sessions asking for clarifcation and they were kind enough to send on to R & D who 
gave the response.

Here's the reply.

"Hi David,

Thank you for your questions.  You are correct, Optimize is only valid for 
dump.  Optimize for copy was prototyped 20+ years ago, but was never intended 
to be shipped as part of the product.  I understand you do see some performance 
gains when running your copy commands, but the code is not fully developed.  We 
will take an APAR and are considering two approaches:
1.      ignore the OPTIMIZE keyword for the COPY command.  This means that 
existing jobs that specify OPTIMIZE on COPY that run today would continue to 
run, however, they will be forced to OPTIMIZE(1).
2.      cause a syntax error when OPTIMIZE is specified on the COPY command.  
This means existing jobs that specify OPTIMIZE on COPY that run today would now 
fail.

We would appreciate any comments you have on whether we should take one 
approach over the other.  Also, if you would like to see OPTIMIZE for COPY 
fully supported I would ask you open a marketing requirement.  A requirement 
will help get that work prioritized amongst other requirements.

Thank you again,
Robert Gensler
DFSMSdss Architecture and Development
Tucson, AZ"

Nice people to talk to.

In the short term, i think the first apar option is probably desirable rather the second as 
they need to cater for the fact its unsupported and mitigate for any unforseen consequences 
of its usage, but longer term, getting it fully deployed & supported on copy, if only for 
"Copy Full" would be the way to go, so i'd say opening a marketing requirement 
would be the preferred approach.

An invitation hard to refuse.
The more requests they get the more likely it is to happen so anyone attending the next 
few "shares" could bring it up too.

Dave
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Miklos,
Others may want to correct me, but from what I've observed OPT(4) is only used 
for the DUMP command.
COPY will accept OPT(4), but all you seem to get is  OPT(3).
Ron
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   Hi

The dfdss accepting haply the OPT(4) keyword, the copy time dropped from
10 minutes to abut 7 minutes.
The  "real" copy will go from ESCON channels to FICON .
We have to do this only once, as "BusTech" gave up the support for zDASD .

Thank you
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