Classification: Confidential <quote> ... but in 2019 Oracle also changed it's licensing such that the Oracle Java no longer free for commercial use ... *** omitted tet *** ...Now why it's taken IBM >2 years to support Java 11, I don't know. </quote>
Probably they don’t want to pay the bill <G> -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Chapman Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Java 8 (latest!) and TLSv1.3 - anyone got it working? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] For those wondering: Java 9 changed some fundamental things and is not necessarily drop-in compatible with Java 8, making migration from 8 to 9 (or above) something that can take some real effort. There were always potential issues going between Java versions but the 8 to 9 transition is especially painful. After 9 they also went to a 6 month release cadence, but most of those releases are only supported for 6 months. But about every 3 years there's a long term support (LTS) release that's supported for years. Version 11 was the first of those, 17 (this fall) will be the next. Not really important on z/OS in particular, but in 2019 Oracle also changed it's licensing such that the Oracle Java no longer free for commercial use. Those using Java commercially can continue to use OpenJDK (the reference implementation) or one of the other free alternatives though. In short "they" made a mess of Java after 8. There's reasons for it and there's some good things in Java 9+, but... things are definitely different. Now why it's taken IBM >2 years to support Java 11, I don't know. One guess might be that they haven't put much effort into it because there's not a lot of demand for it as long as 8 is viable and getting people to migrate to 11 from 8 may be non-trivial. (How many sites are still using old COBOL compilers despite better more modern alternatives being available?) At this point OpenJDK shows Java 8 being supported until "at least May 2026" and Java 11 until "at least October 2024". So given that 17 is potentially coming available in September, and given that I think the migration from 11 to 17 will likely be easier than 8 to 9+, I wouldn't be surprised if they just hold off for 17. Scott Chapman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: ________________________________ The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. ________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
