And before that MVS-OE., with MVS before Open.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of David Spiegel <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 1:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: PL/I vs. JCL Maybe they should've left it as "Open MVS"? (OS/390) On 2021-10-05 13:08, Tom Brennan wrote: > I always thought IBM's position on that was pretty silly. If you make > up a new three word name, expect it to quickly be turned into an > acronym. If they didn't want us to reuse an existing little-known > acronym they should have named it something else. > > On 10/5/2021 9:56 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: >>> USS has always meant Unix System Services. >> >> >> Not unless you have a time machine; Unformatted System Services dates >> to the 1970s. Further, the last post here from IBM on the issue said >> that USS was not an approved abbreviation for Unix System Services. >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=04%7C01%7C%7C66d0453903554718720608d98822bd8d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637690505140660718%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Lxw1EM03nZsemipAC1ktZCbgKrL%2BedD7%2BDDlG%2Fiwn%2B8%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on >> behalf of Joe Monk <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:11 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: PL/I vs. JCL >> >> USS is a VTAM term for Unformatted System Services. >> >> USS has always meant Unix System Services. >> >> Joe >> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:30 PM Mike Schwab <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> U.S.S. Unformated System Services, until Unix System Services tried >>> to take it over. >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 1:24 AM Paul Gilmartin >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:35:41 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote: >>>> >>>>> While TSO does not support unambiguous truncation for command >>>>> names, it >>> does for keywords. I don't know about ICCF. >>>>> >>>> Unambiguous truncation is treacherous. Addition of new >>> commands/keywords can break >>>> legacy art. For that reason I eschew abbreviations in code and >>> pedagogy. The worst >>>> case occurs when one command is a proper prefix of another command. >>>> >>>> I freely abbreviate on a command line. >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 20:56:43 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >>>>> I have no problem with the DD/member ambiguity: >>>>> \edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> -- gil >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA >>> Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> . >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
