Like reinventing a wheel and all they do is add complexity , as example 
Java..another moving target, write something for it, change rel. BANG does not 
work. Like Windows, if IBM did this, they would have been out of the Boz 
decades ago.

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I am involved in a project to bring some z/OS products to Zowe. IMHO it sounds 
like "put lipstick on pig" (a term from my country). I hate this idea.
Many tiers to access a simple TSO resource or program... Angular... Java... 
JSON... Python... Webserver... and my mainframe application is a good Rexx, 
PL/X and low level routines with ISPF showing popups, menus, colors and 
browsers... :) Long life to TSO... CMS.. :) My contractor's justification is to 
bring young people to mainframe world trough new technologies.
Of course... This is only my opinion.
Dan


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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 7:49 AM, Rich Smrcina 
<[email protected]> wrote:

That’s a very good point, Tony.

Rich Smrcina


> On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Tony Thigpen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It's a magic salesman word.
>
> A few years ago, it meant moving the mainframe workload to PC using a PC 
> based Cobol. Later it meant moving to the cloud.
>
> Anytime you hear the word, it means "I have some snake oil to sell you where 
> I can get rich even if the project fails."
>
> Be aware that while it sounds almost the same, the term "Application 
> Modernization" usually means good/legitimate things like adding a web 
> front-end or a better database back-end.
>
> "Mainframe Modernization" is bad, "Application Modernization" is good.
> (Normally.)
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> David Elliot wrote on 10/20/21 6:50 PM:
>> Does anyone out there know what is meant by the expression "Mainframe
>> Modernization' '? It seems  to be catching on with the Bobs but when
>> you ask exactly how they propose to modernize their systems all you
>> get is silence. As in if you don"know we shouldn't even be talking about it.
>> Any ideas ? Or is it just more BS like 'cloud' or 'devops'?
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