HSBC isn’t replacing their mainframe. Because they’re not stupid. Although 
google HSBC hack and see quite a few problems. And AWS is down quite 
frequently. As is Azure and Google cloud. And security on those cloud services 
isn’t even close to the mainframe security.
Your Fintech fetish is also dubious. FDIC insure those deposits? Are they 
regulated like banks? Backed by governments? I doubt Jamie Dimon is losing 
sleep over them.


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On Friday, October 22, 2021, 9:39 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> 
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On 23/10/2021 9:04 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
> No bank needs AWS to process millions of transactions an hour. Every major 
> bank does it on the mainframe without the outages AWS injects into the 
> process.

Well, obviously HSBC do and they're the 6th biggest bank in the world. 
AWS offers 99.999% uptime SLAs so if HSBC suffered an outage it's going 
to be expensive for Amazon.

Talking about outages a few years ago my bank suffered a catastrophic 
outage when a batch job was incorrectly restarted from the wrong step. 
Wages and pensions were not processed. RBS had a CA7 maintenance error 
which caused weeks of chaos which was blamed on lack of skills after 
outsourcing their operations to Hyberbad. They were find £57M by the UK 
government. Air New Zealand suffered a catastrophic mainframe failure 
caused by the incompetence of IBM global services carrying out a DR 
test. Customers couldn't board their planes. It doesn't matter how solid 
your IT platforms are when humans can make errors.


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> On Friday, October 22, 2021, 7:38 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
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> Haha, you don't give up. How about this. HSBC has nearly $3T dollars in
> assets. They have integrated their mainframe with Amazons AWS cloud.
> You've been pwned man, take a breather.
>
> "For large financial institutions, it can be extremely hard to predict
> when your architecture may need to scale to process millions of
> financial transactions per day. HSBC addressed this challenge by
> integrating its on-premises mainframe with AWS services such as AWS
> Lambda, Amazon Kinesis, and Amazon DynamoDB."
>
> https://www.slideshare.net/AmazonWebServices/how-hsbc-uses-serverless-to-process-millions-of-transactions-in-real-time-fsv305-aws-reinvent-2018
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> On 22/10/2021 7:51 pm, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> Australia’s largest bank is Commonwealth Bank of Australia with a little 
>> over 1 trillion in assets in Aussie dollars. ANZ banking group #2 at 
>> slightly over a trillion in assets. Wetpac banking 3rd at around 900 billion 
>> in assets. Which doesn’t put any of them in the top 20. The 20th bank in the 
>> real top 20 is Group BPCE of France at approx 1.5 trillion. These numbers 
>> are as of October 10th, 2021.
>>
>> Millions of transactions a day is comical. Millions per hour is what many 
>> banks process. 1 billion credit card transactions happen daily. Just credit 
>> cards.
>>
>> I look forward to seeing your proof of an Aussie bank in the top 20.
>>
>>
>>
>> The link I provided was Australia's largest (and a world top 20) bank
>> with millions of transactions a day. They're not stupid, production
>> technology choices are critical which is probably why IBM have spent $$
>> making sure Kafka runs ok on z/OS.
>>
>> Caching isn't a new idea. It's a common CICS design pattern using TS so
>> you don't have to make an expensive call to DB2 or IMS. The customer
>> solution is not call the mainframe for read transactions. It's not
>> uncommon, it starting to become pervasive. Writes are a different matter.
>>
>>
>>> However the management was not happy because of that, just because
>>> they want to switch the mainframe off.  Nevermind, the new transaction
>>> system has response times 35-140ms (compared to 4-5ms on mainframe).
>>>
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