What Z cloud offering? I see them categorizing CICS revenue as "cloud". Not
aware of a real Z cloud offering?

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 10:40 PM Clark Morris <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 10:55:08 -0800, Ed Jaffe
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On 12/8/2021 5:40 AM, Doug wrote:
> >> I have watched this thread, and there is simply one thing most of us
> >> are missing.
> >> This is a MF forum. For years, we have been subjected to "oh using the
> >> (insert new technology) is so much better than these old obsolete
> >> mainframes." And we have universally warned not to drink the Kool-Aid.
> >>
> >> So excuse us a bit of satisfaction when the one of these "master of
> >> the universe" technologies has a problem that renders it mortal, like
> >> these old, obsolete mainframes.
> >
> >Absolutely justifiable, especially when the platform being derided has
> >*explicitly* positioned themselves as your MORTAL ENEMY:
>
> How reliable is IBM's z related cloud offering?
>
> How many of the mainframe shops are in practice old and obsolete due
> to management policy?  How many shops have COBOL coding standards last
> updated with either COBOL 68 (ANS COBOL) or COBOL 74 (COBOL VS)?
>
> In my opinion one of the greater risks of the cloud is that the
> appropriate national government may compel the provider be it AWS,
> IBM, Microsoft, etc. to give said government access to an
> organization's data without notifying the organization.  I think I
> read somewhere that the US Patriot act may authorize this and I
> believe that this is probably not unique to the United States.
> >
> >https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/cloud/aws-out-kill-mainframes
>
> Clark Morris
>
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