Well said. Regardless of adoption we should always be curious and not judge before we’ve tried it. I recall that my mom made what she called yams every Thanksgiving. I would never eat them because they were made of pumpkin. Because of that I missed out on the brown sugar, cherries and other goodies that were in there as well … so, eat ur yams first and THEN decide if they are not for you.
Matt Hogstrom “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Jan 5, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > In my experience, there are Luddites in every camp. Some mainframers are > bleeding edge; others are stuck in the past. Likewise for PC users. > > "Be not the first by whom the new are tried, Nor yet the last to lay the old > aside." > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of > Colin Paice [[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS > > David, > > Are there any white papers or blog posts giving examples of IBM's use of > git on z/OS, Im sure there would be a lot of interest in this. Are there > any share or guide presentations? Far from being luddites, z/OS people > tend to adopt change, as long as the new stuff can meet the same standards > as before. > > How do people using Git build the products. Before I left IBM our build > system on z/OS had XML files configuration files (which I found very > complex). 40 years ago I was in build and had a simple file with one line > per source file. > > I found file tagging a challenge. The only way I could get a python file > to compile was to copy an existing .py file, and edit it and insert my > content; or ftp in* binary *a file from linux and use chtag -ct SO8859-1 > name.py. Im sure there must be an easy way, but I could not find it. > > Colin > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 at 15:29, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 5/1/22 8:55 pm, René Jansen wrote: >>> It is undeniable that git - which I love and use every day, is much more >> complicated on z/OS because of EBCDIC, access methods, records and block >> sizes. >> >> >> It's not complicated Rene. There are UNIX commands that make it snack! >> Company policy says we need to use Git. Some projects still use MVS data >> sets so we sync to the file system. You would be surprised what products >> you use every day that are hosted and built from the z/OS UNIX file >> system and managed by Git. File tagging makes EBCDIC a non issue and >> block sizes and records are nothing more than I/O methods of the >> utilities that do the sync. The most compelling Git advocates where I >> work are some of our best mainframe engineers who have witnessed it's >> capabilities such as merging. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
