I have all the 2.3 and 2.3 z/OS and products doc on our company share, my issue was my co-worker was working with the IBM DEBUG team and a new parm was provided for COBOL that aided in debug was not in this original doc.

I'd have to check my holddata for any hold actions for DOC that I may have missed.

something I normally do is send the update for AO and DOC to the team, since support for COBOL was moved to me just recently, I'm sure it was something I overlooked

thanks

Carmen


On 1/21/2022 8:55 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Download to a network on your work PC. If you are paranoid* then make local 
copies of the most critical. At today's disk and SSD prices, it's a lot more 
affordable than it used to be.

* Even paranoids have real enemies.

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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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for me Bob, I'd have to download on my home PC, USB's are disabled on
company PC's and Laptops :(

Carmen

On 1/21/2022 8:47 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:
I hope you only plug that USB stick in your own PC.

Policy here is that it can get you fired if you plug it into a work computer. 
Just ask the Iranians.

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My regular warning to download the all the pdf files of all the manuals, people!

You might not have external internet access when it all goes sideways. In fact, 
that is an extremely common scenario, in which you would want, very bad, access 
to all the crummy, slow, wrong-link infested crap that is an absolute showcase 
of how not to provide documentation, or build websites using active content, 
for that matter. That mainframe would be still online of course, and reachable, 
provided you have a direct Telnet 3270 link to it, and no ‘stepping stones’ on 
deplorable technology. Or webserver based emulators.

Books are even better of course, but not everyone has the space.

My usb stick with manuals is very well maintained, and I have generational 
copies of that. That stick, and the readability of the pdf file on a modern 
high res screen is a showcase of modern technology, the website is not.

Best regards,

René.


On 21 Jan 2022, at 15:21, Carmen Vitullo<cvitu...@hughes.net>   wrote:

I have to agree, back in the early days development of a index page was 
intended to be simple, provide some wording, and some links to where you want 
to go, mostly due to performance, the faster the page loads the better, no 
glitter, pictures or unnecessary icons.

the only tools we had back in the early 90's was a C program one of my team 
members write to convert DCF/SCRIPT to HTML (thanks to Mike Myers) ! otherwise 
it was all hand coded.


Carmen

On 1/21/2022 8:02 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
It's not just IBM. There seems to be a race to the bottom in web page design. 
Glitz is more important than, e.g., ease of use, performance, reliability. Take 
entry and validation of, e.g., credit card numbers, e-mail addresses, names, 
ZIP codes; it is bog standard to not tell the user the required format and to 
reject valid characters.

Not that "everybody else does it" is a valid excuse.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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The "new tools" are neither as reliable, functional or available as those the 
are replacing.
I have been sayig this for the last 10 yrs (or more).

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How many online systems have IBM put out there now ?
Just when it's all seems stable it changes and we go around again.
I could mention the stacks of manuals I started with that never went down :-) 
but think of the trees.
Damn ! Am I that old ?

I'm gonna download the pdf collection for now.

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