I take it you don't know the difference between vi and vim.

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Subject: Re: Rocket Vim fileencoding (was: ... ASCII ...)

On 10/2/22 8:29 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I couldn't imagine voluntarily using an editor that didn't have a good macro 
> language. The ubiquity of vi is certainly a good reason to learn it, but not 
> to use it routinely.

Huh? I use nvim (neovim) which has the full force of Lua for writing
plugins, and that includes customizing the UI. I can't even write a
custom syntax highlighter for ISPF!

I take it you don't know much about Vim?


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> Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 6:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: Rocket Vim fileencoding (was: ... ASCII ...)
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> On 9/2/22 9:40 pm, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 15:20:52 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/2/22 12:48 pm, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>>>>       ...
>>>>> I ran Vim on z/OS. It's part of the Rocket Ported Tools suite. It's uses
>>>>> enhanced ASCII like all of the ported tools.
>>>>>
>>>> Have you played with Vim ":set fileencoding=..."?  It works
>>>> splendidly on Linux.
>> It might be useful for generating tests or with such as:
>>       : w ! iconv -f IBM-1047 -t UTF-8  >codes
> I just tried it and it works. Rockets Vim port is surprisingly good. We
> also have emacs and a lot of our young guys use that. I like Vim because
> it's the default editor
> on *nix sysems and it's always there. Its mode of operation takes some
> learning but it's worth it. I couldn't imagine using ISPF to edit Unix
> files but customers do it
> which is why I'm researching this EBCDIC issue.
>
>
>>> No need. I'm convinced that ISPF edit does not support any codepage
>>> other than 1047. I've opened a case with IBM to confirm. Pretty shabby
>>> implementation if that's true.
>>>
>> It used to support UTF-8.  Regression.  But my recollection might not be 
>> probative.
> I would avoid tagging files UTF-8. For text conversion to work in the
> shell you need to set _BPXK_AUTOCVT=ALL, at which point almost all
> programs that use enhanced ASCII
> will break. That includes Python, Git, all of Rockets ported tools suite!
>
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