Although it was in clear text, it was in a read-protected control block.
Lennie

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom 
Brennan
Sent: 12 May 2022 20:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: The Story of Mainframe Passwords

Wow, clear text.  But all that doesn't matter if a fellow sysprog modifies my 
logon clist to put up messages something like this:

ACF01234 ID HAS BEEN OFFLINE FOR TOO LONG PLEASE LOGON AGAIN
ACF01235 ACF2, ENTER USERID:
ACF01236 ACF2, ENTER PASSWORD:

... and then SEND the password to the fellow sysprog.

Yes, that happened to me as a joke for the new guy.  When entering the password 
I did notice the text appeared on the screen, which was odd. 
But I stupidly hit Enter anyway :)

This did open my eyes to how easy it is to obtain someone's logon information.

On 5/12/2022 6:00 AM, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:
> Maybe include how the TSO password used to be stored (in clear of 
> course) in the TSB control block in days past.
> 
> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
> https://rsclweb.com
> 'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.'
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Charles Mills
> Sent: 11 May 2022 23:02
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
> 
> Reg Harbeck (a name many of you should recognize) and I are putting 
> together a presentation on the above subject. We would appreciate any 
> material that anyone thought could be included. (I guess I should get 
> all lawyerly here and say if you send it to us you grant us permission 
> to use it.)
> 
> Note that we specifically avoided calling it the HISTORY of mainframe 
> passwords. We are aiming at casting a much wider net than a bunch of 
> "and then mixed case came along in 20__." The presentation is intended 
> to be fun, not a password tutorial.
> 
> If you wanted to write me off this list it's charlesm at mcn dot org.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Charles
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