I realize that SIO no longer exists in zArch; in fact, it never existed in XA or ESA. That's why I asked about S/370 LPARs. For S/370, learning on bare metal is more viable, but I believe that for a beginner ESA or Z on bare metal might be more traumatic than first learning on z/OS or CMS.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Joe Monk [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: my new z114 Seymour, Just like all z boxes these days, the z114 only runs in LPAR mode. There is no way to defin\e an LPAR on a z114 for any machine type earlier than ESA/390. Remember, z114 is a post z10 box. Plus, SIO and its brethren do not exist in z/Arch. :) They were eliminated from the instruction set. Joe On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 8:51 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > In S/370 mode, you use that Start I/O (SIO) instruction and the only > architected data you need to worry about are the Channel Address Word > (CAW), channel Command Words (CCWs) and Channel Status Word (CSW). In XA, > ESA and Z modes you need to deal with several other data, e.g., the > Operation-Request Block (ORB). Compare the descriptions of I/O in < > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1SF5czVeBZ6U8saekUHm8W3G3RSgjZdtCIJkz_-xwiU_Urcv_EvkvUXvbkueQiUXQOPO1kVYdsV18SdxevY5ohAjlJ2e-uNXVDASlllFoeWpHsy0eNskvX7kP-C8UWMzXmDwIwPsEuOaXckn9x_i_0DsrWV_aV2bh23029_bLuha_Je5Xi6pZUVDDzIzi5jKptRXyrwJWW7a5uuWLk0Jp767BqMlCyoY2GGqYw5F1Ja0vGqq7R5iFEqzl7Q4zkRL_x3tQR2SDpCxYZgkQLX56b_O5wHpZfVngiliebxqlv1aeyWNmZOcvsebBT_tIAknJybRTeZoaTs8TxG2fg-idZjkNnB2XeMSYNUF8yKNxzT9pWX7SBw-J1SrOgZlRWMxmf38lU_UuWG4C73EOyVPGEF5CUazFIc9i_n8ts4UrUdLR2Q6ZeR_zpk4p_GWr8FjI/http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.org%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F370%2FprincOps%2FGA22-7000-7_IBM_System_370_Principles_of_Operation_8th_ed_198103.pdf>, > < > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1WjOMa9SzROlTbs1X7dK5QECznO-KVyWLKT-O2eMRt5bhxpQFnh1HsUWsDcSvZCjGOF3vFBEIcGoCRDO734k8YPisoYDoloLe6maQCBrdGem1wbjkvp5dVIlavcFDsk7S7kTjqp6sdcseY64B-Ec_Ov1FPeUU7W2ow9kTq0wrTsqgzAvdhbK0_SNJH7WSe4yy0gCeey93C7Eew5fEFuEW9fV_l7beAiIbCNyJWbZ1adgKyb1Wrjef9gJK5QKkdG1DwHOR7YCcSvec4fBJKrofECwG1lVnFS-VxgCAdyKzo1MgxPSOeKHgR5H03aN0eLcxc4Xm3CLa-ublh-pbOvbjRzS92kEXay0k9RbSY_tlGT9PXOGt0-ZLgC46AvzOdlPWgj4QgTiDm-lq8Pk9as76fvFGXTYNdIhHy2BTaUDc1Vxi6I0CYiuXUCnYkCOHnbI_/http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.org%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F370%2FprincOps%2FSA22-7085-1_370-XA_Principles_of_Operation_Jan87.pdf>, > < > http://secure-web.cisco.com/18vmOd_xk_Vwa1e7JUnxkyxdn9Qlw2CeRULi09GYPIRirakSd0NmEo5kacBDmFbztgUCHceZspjuA-qpmOwg2rRHQOs7tAyYB3xk_t_sZofRq2DR6Cvh2ni1n7GI-ds-TiSG4sCa7V3kzK96HHks2kFp6lVLi1RFkwWMzylMsslxcdO1gftWoOPLHfezk1lEvEFC8IP_AZXucj6dMZMrncGUNaypBzqxX3P5PvuIAqSwyiZ0VEhnUDLI6yKBWyXQEgD3jEVOxlbv71kZtlWv2PBe_ALZ320jzgtOopgt3k3fVASTh2AGOQyx7ctTjVs1wdzWWKQ9fXTaxQ36m0hCzUVvIVchkzCKZDmFrp4QEe7rj51lzCv5KYEbfDOA12hfBsvfl_QYSNNJxa11-EXP4E9XIo6HIRNfiGOA2jDY7mHgR91BmwmDQsY7qx5-nWgXZ/http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.org%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F370%2FprincOps%2FSA22-7200-0_370-ESA_Principles_of_Operation_Aug88.pdf>. > and, if you're curious, SA22-7801-9 for ESA/390 and SA22-7832-12 for z (-13 > should be out shortly), although the big change is from S/370 to S/370-XA. > > I would recommend downloading the manuals for the most recent z/OS and > z/VM that will run on the Z114; disk and SSD don't cost that much these > days. I'd also recommend taking backups of all HMC and SE data. > > Especially while you're still learning, it might help to take and organize > copious notes. And remember that the only stupid question is the one that > you should have asked but didn't; don't be afraid to ask if some of the > documentation seems unintelligible. But whatever you do, have fun doing it. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > of Enzo D'Amato [[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 8:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > Joe is correct that an ESA/390 lpar is the lowest option supported on the > z114. I can run software up to z/OS 2.2, which came out in 2015. While this > is old, I am not sure that it is quite bit savers old yet. I believe that > manuals for this software version are still on the public internet (it is a > section on IBM documentation). What additional complications are involved > in programming for z/Archetecure and ESA/390 that you don't have to deal > with on the lower ISA levels? > > Thank you, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf > of Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 6:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > When you ask IBM about licensing software old enough to run on that box, > you might want to ask them whether it is possible to obtain softcopy > manuals and training materials at the same levels. Also, you may be able to > find a lot of the relevant manuals at the bitsaves web site. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > of Enzo D'Amato [[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 7:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: my new z114 > > I saw that Timothy Siples already posted this, but I wanted to share some > more information about my new system, and my setup. I am currently a high > school junior located in New York. For the last month or so, I have been in > the process of acquiring a used z114 mainframe (you may have seen my other > post about dasd for the machine). Yesterday, the machine finally arrived. > If you want to see some pictures of the machine please do check out my > reddit post here: > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1CZItIYHeYY3-uraOprb1SqojHusTPmWTIG2Wz2teDumFhul97h-qbIpLQyGfH2SGOaW-mARuPoQt6FxTNPvs18rgJn4YMrXRGlMiYJMiMXetL6kRLsVkaREi03C_OzlkdvL5o2N7RKWdigGyvVleJLN96qzzy-6tJSF4i1NRT9G-jxb4t-eryfLXIit6rFuGT4EEzGL8xf_AHRJqCiaejRmn3TEhSmRd-3xUdSxieLHJshf-KW99yJS1PzbH7sDB8ZkE3oTAZHoD5EURxGMQUVWGsnJYFqaTn7F4hxHB-faeqWvmz_6Jv5SnXGktTD8pWPjIwUeRt6R8rCIx0hC4HOvMstxWWUjdvIoSrOCiB24/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fhomelab%2Fcomments%2Fuxsbef%2Fmy_new_z114%2F%3F%20At%20the%20time%20of%20writing%2C%20I%20have%20not%20powered%20up%20the%20machine%20yet%2C%20as%20I%20still%20have%20to%20run%20and%20connect%20the%20power%20to%20my%20220v%20supply.%20The%20HMC%20for%20my%20machine%20is%20also%20still%20in%20the%20mail%2C%20and%20I%20am%20expecting%20it%20sometime%20this%20weekend%2C%20or%20early%20next%20week.%20My%20main%20plan%20for%20the%20machine%20is%20to%20use%20it%20to%20learn%20everything%20there%20is%20to%20know%20about%20the%20platform%2C%20and%20learn%20the%20skills%20that%20I%20would%20need%20for%20a%20career%20in%20mainframe%20early.%20I%20am%20also%20trying%20to%20get%20into%20MIT%2C%20and%20having%20a%20unique%20accomplishment%20like%20this%20on%20your%20transcript%20can%20be%20a%20big%20help%20in%20that%20regard.%20Currently%2C%20I%20have%20a%20FC%20SAN%20for%20FBA%20storage%2C%20but%20I%20am%20still%20looking%20for%20CKD%20capable%20storage.%20My%20parents%20have%20allowed%20me%20to%20take%20up%20to%20three%20racks%2C%20so%20if%20you%20know%20of%20anyone%20trying%20to%20get%20rid%20of%20some%2C%20no%20matter%20how%20old%20it%20is%2C%20I%20will%20pay%20shipping%20to%20me.%20I%20expect%20to%20be%20posting%20alot%20more%20here%20as%20I%20deal%20with%20the%20myriad%20chalanges%20involved%20with%20getting%20the%20machine%20set%20up.%20If%20you%20have%20any%20questions%20you%20would%20like%20to%20ask%2C%20please%20feel%20free%20to%20do%20so.%20I%20will%20do%20my%20best%20to%20reply%20thoughout%20the%20day > . > > > Thank you, > > Enzo Damato > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
