Hi Carmen,

Yes the issue got resolved with the IPL.  I am just trying to figure out what 
went wrong, why the system gave me the 106 abends after doing the dynamic 
changes.  I'm thinking I should have built a new linklist and activated that 
one instead of just unallocating and allocating the current one.  

I wasn't having any luck using ISRFIND so I used ISRDDN and did a search thru 
the linklist and I did, indeed, find IEBGENER in the SYNCLINK loadlib as an 
alias to SYNCGENR.    SYS1.LINKLIB has no IEBGENER, it has IEBGENR as an alias 
to IEBGENE9 which was renamed from IEBGENER by a usermod as part of the 
Syncsort install.  It may be that the Syncsort standard is to rename IEBGENER 
to OLDGENER in LINKLIB, but our company standard is that when we rename 
something to "old" status, we change the last character of the name to '9'.  

Thanks again for your help.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 2:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Linklist and Syncsort confusion

ok, maybe I just missed it, do you resolve your issue?

my ISRFIND shows IEBGENER in my linklist in the SYNCSORT LINKLIB, did the 
vendor change the usermod to assign an alias rather than use the IEBGERNER 
module name?

in my SYS1.LINKLIB IEBGENER is an alias of OLDGENER

maybe the usermod changed since I last supported SYNCSORT.

Carmen

On 8/22/2022 2:19 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
> Answers embedded.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 1:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Linklist and Syncsort confusion
>
> you're sure the library is on the same volume?  Yes
>
> did the new library contain secondary extents?  No, but the old one was in 
> danger of going into secondary so we wanted to make it bigger.
>
> did you follow the syncsort process or usermod process to make 
> syncgener available as IEBGENER?  Yes
>
> it renames IEBGENER as OLDGENER, I don't have the MOD in front of me 
> currently but I think.  In our case, we manually renamed the default 
> IEBGENER to IEBGENE9 (don't ask why...)
>
> I agree with Dave, an LLA refresh or update should have been enough to 
> refresh LLA but sometime running address spaces will still pick up the old 
> linklist.  Bouncing LLA should have done the same as a refresh - and I had to 
> shut it down in order to remove the allocation so I could rename the 
> libraries.  I did double-check and did the ALLOCATE of LNKLST before starting 
> LLA.
>
> ISRFIND will help you see the linklist concatenation and tell you where 
> IEBGENER is found.  ISRDDN LNKLST is showing IEBGENER as an alias of SYNCGENR 
> in the SYNCLINK library.
>
> 20-20 hindsight, I should have shut LLA and VLF back down to see if I still 
> got the 106 abends, to see if it was a mismatch between the linklist and LLA.
>
> Rex
>
>
> Carmen
>
> On 8/22/2022 1:37 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>> You might have got away with a F LLA,REFRESH. I think you are correct, all 
>> UNALLOCATE/AlLOCATE does is ENQ related. No re-reading the libraries 
>> involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
>>> Behalf Of Pommier, Rex
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:32 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Linklist and Syncsort confusion
>>>
>>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I don't know if this is specifically a Syncsort issue or a more 
>>> generic confusion about linklist datasets.  Here goes.
>>>
>>> We have the SYNCLINK library defined in the linklist.  We have 
>>> installed Precisely's IEBGENER replacement as part of our install.  
>>> We determined SYNCLINK was too small.  I allocated a larger version 
>>> of the library on the same volume as the current one.  We had an IPL 
>>> scheduled for Saturday so right before the IPL, I logged in and did 
>>> the library swap.  My process was (as I
>>> thought) pretty standard.
>>>
>>> Shut down LLA and VLF
>>> SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE
>>> Rename the 2 libraries to get the new, larger one with the right 
>>> name SETPROG LNKLST,ALLOCATE Start LLA and VLF.
>>>
>>> The operator then needed to run a couple pre-IPL jobs that use IEBGENER.
>>> They failed with
>>> IEW4009I FETCH FAILED FOR MODULE IEBGENER FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- 
>>> BECAUSE OF AN I/O ERROR.
>>> IEW4005I FETCH FOR MODULE IEBGENER FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- FAILED 
>>> BECAUSE IEWFETCH ISSUED RC 0F AND REASON 40 CSV031I LIBRARY ACCESS 
>>> FAILED FOR MODULE IEBGENER, RETURN CODE 24, REASON CODE 26080021, 
>>> DDNAME *LNKLST*
>>>
>>> The manuals were less than helpful.  IPLing took care of the problem 
>>> but I'm not clear as to either what I did wrong or if my 
>>> understanding of the UNALLOCATE/ALLOCATE is wrong.  I was under the 
>>> impression that doing the UNALLOCATE then ALLOCATE rebuilt the 
>>> linklist.  It appears now to me that all the UNALLOCATE does is 
>>> remove the enqueues on the datasets and ALLOCATE simply 
>>> reestablishes the enqueues, still pointing to the original location, 
>>> but even that doesn't compute in my mind because I didn't change any 
>>> locations of either the old or new libraries.  Or was it a mismatch 
>>> between the linklist and the LLA, and that possibly the linklist was 
>>> still pointing to the original location of the SYNCLINK library but 
>>> the LLA is now pointing to the new location?  Would I have not had 
>>> the problem if, instead of just doing the UNALLOCATE/ALLOCATE, I 
>>> would have built and activated a
>>> LNKLST01 concatenation?
>>>
>>> I see the cautions in the system commands manual against moving or 
>>> deleting a linklist dataset while the allocations are inactive and I 
>>> obviously got burned by disobeying that warning.  I'm just trying to 
>>> figure out what the UNALLOCATE is doing and how to not have this 
>>> happen when I have to perform this kind of maintenance.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Rex
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