I am curious - why do you say that Wazi is not good for systems programmer learning? What is restricted there for systems programmers? Are the images they start with not kept private to your own instance so that any systems-level changes you make to your private instance persist across virtual IPL's of that instance?
I did a minimal amount of research on Wazi and I *sort of* like that the instances are hosted on "real iron" z hardware, so I presume you get a z/VM login from which to IPL your z/OS instance. There are good and bad points there. Assuming it is hosted for "Learners" versions at Dallas RDP, there are other issues that can come up, like the recent Dallas network outage. OTOH, the "aaS" aspect may indicate that they control update of the system-level images to the point where you cannot update (or automatically lose updates to) certain system-level features in order to provide "good service". Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM Redbook SG24-8205-06 - zPDT Guide That's what I'd heard. Wazi is great if all you want to do is play with application programming, but as a systems programmer learning tool, it sucks rocks. On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 9:58 AM Tom Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9/7/2022 7:18 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > > I was told my application would be "moved into the approval queue" > > in > February 2022, but significant numbers of unanswered emails later I > still do not have a copy. They just stopped responding at all. > > > > The FAQ at url > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/products/z-development-test-environment/pricing__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!JCU20a5vNTFZsapeX6Gz6vfgNpz4NDcJnXtWQqS0tdzvZcfpJUO2SNYFMP-nqNGsQjIcRCP7-ej-blM2b1bvIOp7$ > now > says: > > > > "Learner's Edition is currently being updated and will return soon." > > A couple of months ago I was on a phone meeting with IBMer's for some > other reason, and the manager of zPDT happened to be on the call. So > I couldn't help asking about the status. He said it was "on pause" > (which mirrors that web page text), but he also said the plan at that > time was to move it to Wazi. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
