Or if you don't want the users to have surrogate. Create a STC for the CICS 
that then submits the CICS job. Then only the STC needs to have surrogate 
access to the CICS userid, or if the same id, just let it inherit it.  The 
users only need authority to issue the S cicsname.

Richard McIntosh
Oracle/Cerner

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Thanks, that's probably the simplest way.. Awesome

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Why not code the userid on the Jobcard and then give the users who submit the 
job READ access to the SURROGAT profile for the userid?
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Subject: Racf userid - CICS started as a job

Hi,
I am asking this in the main forum hopefully it will be a simple answer, that I 
just don't see.

So I have lots of experience setting up RACF  STARTED class with STDATA so that 
started tasks run under a certain userid.

Here we run our CICS's as jobs, since we are a development company, the 
programmers, can start/stop their CICS's when they need to.

We are doing WEB pipeline development and I setup the directory structure for 
the CICSDFLT userid and the group is everyone else.

If a batch job submits/starts CICS the CICS userid is picked up and everything 
works great.

If the user needs to recycle the region its picking up their userid and then 
the CICS gets access issues.

Is there a way to force it to use the DFLTUSER for batch jobs like I can setup 
for started tasks?

I think I could use user=DFLTUSER on the jobcard, but then I would have to 
setup those userids as RESTRICTED, because no password. There is a small 
security risk with this, but these userids don't have TSO Segments, so its a 
limited exposure.

Is there any other way to set this up?  Besides as STC's.

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