I cannot check the serverpac dialog on my 2.4 system since I've marked the order as installed, complete, but checking what some vendors supply for PDS's ONLY - I try not to flirt with disaster and I attempt to be compliant as much as possible with IBM's rules, not doing so has bitten me because I picked up an install from a previous sysprog.

with IBM ServerPac and some vendors, PDS only I am disusing these PDS's are delivered to allow multiple extents to be taken

CHECK(IBMCSV,CSV_LNKLST_NEWEXTENTS) - tells me so

HCK detects these linklist datasets and reports on them as an ERROR

CHECK(IBMCSV,CSV_LNKLST_SPACE)

SYSPLEX:    PLEX     SYSTEM: SYSx

START TIME: 09/22/2022 14:01:57.366198

CHECK DATE: 20050720  CHECK SEVERITY: LOW

CSVH0979I LNKLST set LNKLST00 data sets allocated with secondary space

IBM suggests that partitioned data sets (PDS's) in the LNKLST be

allocated with only primary extents, for two reasons.  First, a PDS

allocated with only primary space defined has only one extent.  This

makes it easier to stay within the 255-extent limit for an active

LNKLST concatenation without having to reallocate data sets with

fewer initial extents.  Second, if a PDS will be updated while in

the LNKLST set, it can be extended if it has been allocated using

secondary space. This can cause members to be placed in extents that

did not exist when the LNKLST concatenation was activated. An

attempt to access a member in a new extent causes the requesting

program to abend.


that's why I alter the allocation at ServerPac customization and not wait till an issue arises

Carmen

On 9/22/2022 3:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:49:50 -0500, Carmen Vitullo<[email protected]>  wrote:

I've been doing this on my ServerPac for a while, I've even called out
the ServerPac folks about the issue of, why deliver linklist lpalist
datasets with secondary allocation if the linkist does not support it,
Secondary extents are certainly supported in the LNKLST.  What you can't do is
take a secondary to the "live" LNKLST for a PDS, but you can for PDSE and
pick up the change with an LLA REFRESH or UPDATE.  For LPA libs it doesn't
matter ever since that is only read in at IPL time.

The number of extents in the LNKLST used to be a problem for some systems, but 
when
the rules changed in DFSMS/MVS 1.3 to be "255 total extents or less" with PDSE 
always
counting as 1 extent, that helped a lot.   I personally want secondary extents, 
at
least for some data sets to support applying maintenance.   I always run SMP/E 
apply
with COMPRESS(ALL) anyway so it's not going to continually increase and I'd 
rather
get a secondary on a few libraries than have the apply blow up, have allocate a 
new
larger DSN, copy old to new, rename and restart my apply.  I'm pretty sure this 
is
why ServerPac allocations came with secondary extents going back in history.

Due to 3390-9s geometry being my main sysres volume still, over allocation
from ServerPac (or now z/OSMF) has been more of a problem for me than
under allocation, so when building my local maintenance sysres after install I 
have
had to free space on some larger PDS or PDSE files to get everything to fit and
have spare space on the sysres for maintenance.  Then if something takes a
secondary during apply, I don't care.  The prod LNKLSTs have secondaries on
some data sets on the sysres, but again I don't care.  No one better be updating
the live sysres anyway except under extreme circumstances.

As usual YMMV and if you are in a shop with 220 LNKLST data sets you probably
have a very good reason for never wanting any secondary extents even in your
maintenance environment.


Best Regards,

Mark
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