That's what I finally used to perform the copy. Worked fine. Mark Jacobs
Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&[email protected] ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, September 26th, 2022 at 7:11 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka <[email protected]> wrote: > Is it possible to copy LDS dataset using IDCAMS REPRO? (manual is clear > - yes) > I mean CI level operations, since there are no records inside. > Control Intervals are "EF-agnostic", so the source can be non-EF and > target can be EF. > > So, wouldn't be possible dss would use IDCAMS under the cover? > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > > W dniu 13.09.2022 o 19:56, Ernesto Figueroa pisze: > > > Ok, yes. > > > > Then that is correct and the way I things should be working. My friend is > > the REDBOOK VSAM Demystified…it has a nice section for each of the two > > Extended Addressable VS Extended Format. > > > > So, Extended Addressable is typically required to be Extended Format (and > > therefore SMS), except for non-SMS LDS (apparently) which can be Extended > > Addressable and non-SMS. > > > > So, the 32-byte larger physical block size for extended format data sets > > still holds true on why we cannot copy between them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ernesto E. Figueroa > > DFSMSdss Product Owner > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] on behalf of > > Mark Jacobs [email protected] > > Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:50 AM > > To: [email protected] [email protected] > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ADR971E RC 8 > > Let me rephrase that. The LISTC command on the non-SMS managed VSAM LDS has > > an attribute of EXT-ADDR, whereas the SMS managed VSAM LDS has both > > EXT-ADDR and EXTENDED. I had assumed that EXT-ADDR requires EXTENDED. I'm a > > tad confused. > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > GPG Public Key - > > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&[email protected] > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > > On Tuesday, September 13th, 2022 at 1:29 PM, Ernesto Figueroa > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Hi Mark, as far as I know SMS is a requirement for extended-format data > > > sets. > > > > > > If you were able to create a non-SMS extended format, it would indeed be > > > news to me. > > > Can you show me how you created them and the catalog entries that reflect > > > that EA/EF status. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Ernesto E. Figueroa > > > DFSMSdss Product Owner > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] on behalf of > > > Mark Jacobs [email protected] > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:14 AM > > > To: [email protected] [email protected] > > > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ADR971E RC 8 > > > I can define an EA/EF VSAM Linear dataset on both SMS and Non-SMS > > > volumes. Both are usable and the catalog entries for both reflect their > > > EA/EF status. > > > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > > > GPG Public Key - > > > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&[email protected] > > > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > > > On Tuesday, September 13th, 2022 at 12:05 PM, Ernesto Figueroa > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > > > > The reason ADRDSSU cannot copy/restore non-SMS extended addressable > > > > VSAM LDS data sets to SMS managed extended addressable VSAM LDS is > > > > because the non-SMS EA is not an extended-format data set, which > > > > requires it to be SMS. The SMS EA is extended-format, and therefore it > > > > has an additional 32bytes per physical block. Since the blocks are not > > > > the same, we cannot copy/restore tracks between them. > > > > > > > > I hope this answers your question, > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Ernesto E. Figueroa > > > > DFSMSdss Product Owner > > > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] on behalf > > > > of Mark Jacobs [email protected] > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, September 12, 2022 at 10:55 AM > > > > To: [email protected] [email protected] > > > > > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] ADR971E RC 8 > > > > I got around the problem a different way, but I'd really like to > > > > understand why ADRDSSU won't restore(logically dumped) or copy a > > > > non-SMS extended addressable VSAM LDS dataset to an SMS managed > > > > extended addressable VSAM LDS. Is there something within the physical > > > > dataset that's different between it being SMS managed vs not being SMS > > > > managed? > > > > > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > > > > > GPG Public Key - > > > > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&[email protected] > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
