What a shame.

However, If you configure your Crypto Express as an accelerator rather than
a full processor then it will still work with SSL and TLS. The calls used by
SSL and TLS use clear key calls and so do not need the master keys. Master
keys are not used by accelerator mode. Running as an accelerator rather than
as a full processor makes those calls slightly faster as they use a shorter
path with the Crypto Express device. 

So the short answer is that you do not need the master keys. Longer answer
is to configure as an accelerator for better performance of SSL and TLS.

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
https://rsclweb.com 
'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.'

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Frank Swarbrick
Sent: 28 October 2022 17:59
To: [email protected]
Subject: Crypto Express question

We are pushing our "host security module" processing off our mainframe back
to our card issuer processor, and I have a couple of questions.

If we use ICSF just for TLS and the like, does this still require the DES
and RSA keys to be loaded?  We already don't have AES or ECC master keys, so
I am thinking we wouldn't need DES or RSA keys either.  But someone who
should know seems to think we still need master keys, even if we're not
using it as a crypto coprocessor.

Other question is, can TLS encryption processes that use ICSF services work
at all if there is no crypto card at all?

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