I had worked on PC's and Computervision graphic machines prior to 1983, and everything there was already OCO I think, so I didn't know any better when IBM went OCO. I rarely looked at the fiche, but it was really interesting to see PL/X (I think it was called) compiled into assembler code. I do remember one time where (with someone else's help) we found the cause of an error by looking at the fiche and reported it to IBM - with our own fix of course :)

FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computervision

On 10/31/2022 4:42 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Tom,
1983, eh?
The same year as the (expletive deleted) OCO policy.
I've seen IBM-lifers defend it on this forum, yet, it still did not/does not make sense.

Regards,
David

On 2022-10-31 19:31, Tom Brennan wrote:
I get it... I just heard from an old co-worker that sometime this month they shut down the mainframe in Southern California that I worked on from 1983 to 2013.  That was my first exposure to an IBM mainframe, and I think XA had just come out and people were busy fixing programs to work in AMODE 31.  There was a rack full of MVS microfiche and a viewer at each desk.  If we needed to send a dump to IBM we had to create a tape and carry it across the street to the mail room.

On 10/31/2022 2:50 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
I just shutdown our z/OS 2.3 system(s) for the last time.
When I came to school in 1976, the computer was described as "loosely coupled 370s". My exposure was via remote cardreader/printer. When I started working here in 1981, there were still folks that had rewired boards for what they had before that.
End of 2019, we moved from a 10 year old z9 to MFaaS with FNTS in Omaha.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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