Some words from Tim's wife bonnie:

I don't have any install files...nothing on the product. I only got involved 
with filling orders but I can no longer access any of Tim's files. I don't have 
his passwords and none of the companies, AOL, Google, Microsoft, etc. would 
give me access even though it was in his Will that I have access. Our attorney 
would have taken up the case but it was going to cost more than the family 
wanted to spend. Apparently with these companies you have to set up Beneficiary 
info in your profile. Wills mean nothing.


So... I don't think that we can get some many people for a crow-founding that 
we collect enough money to pay the attorney....


Sadly....

Bye,
Michael



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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von 
Farley, Peter
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2022 20:12
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

I agree with Jay that it still may be possible to recover the source IF the 
files still exist.

I know it probably is possible to set up PW protected or encrypted files to 
"self-destruct" or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency or company who 
are serious about secrecy all have access to some capability like that), but is 
such a seriously advanced capability really available to "ordinary" folk like 
the SPF developer?

Even assuming the answer to that question is "yes", it would be worth asking if 
a certified "white hat" hacker or company had the capability to unlock such 
files anyway.  Obviously it depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" status is, but I tend to think 
that someone with the necessary credentials could possibly resolve this 
unfortunate situation.  Money would be the first issue of course since no one 
who does such work normally does it gratis, but among those who are real fans 
of the software I am sure some way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.

Any such effort would require his widow's cooperation and official written 
approval of course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.

Another question to ask is if any version of the source was escrowed with a law 
firm or other "rights protecting" organization in order to make a sale to a 
large company?  Many software developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of the escrow) access to some 
version of the original code, though getting it released in the open might take 
lawyers and/or court actions.

Just a couple of thoughts for consideration.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 5:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

Jay,

I've got the following information.....

<quote>
Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and when she tried to break the PW, it 
self destructed. In any case, according to her, there is no hope for any data 
recovery. Very disappointing.
</quote>

Sorry....

Michael


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von 
Jay Maynard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 20:23
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be 
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a 
try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge <[email protected]> wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
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