?

Wgy would reading the directory be relevant to space release? Why is anything 
necessary beyond OPEN/CLOSE?

Now, if you want to know how big the directory is, or how full, then reading it 
makes sense, but not if all you want is to release unused secondary extents.


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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Hi Seymour,

WRT "OPEN/CLOSE", yeah. I don't either.



WRT "I know of no reason", It's been a long time since I wrote a
program to read a directory, but if I did that, then the reason would
be "to release space", of course.

In any case, writing a new program is not an option here. Also using
any 3rd party tool is not an option either.

Hmmmm. I wonder if IEBGENER can be tricked into reading a directory...



Dave Cole







At 12/21/2022 04:55 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Every release tool that I am aware of does an OPEN/CLOSE. I know of
>no reason why a program would need to read the directory in order to
>release space.
>Does ISPF create and delete a dummy member? If so, why is that required?
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>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on
>>behalf of David Cole [[email protected]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:20 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: RLSE - A question about releasing unused tracks in a DASD  dataset
>>Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but
>>without having to open and close it?
>>Or if opening/closing is required, is there a way to do that for a
>>PDS without knowing (or discovering) what members are in it, and
>>without creating a new member?
>>Obviously, I could write something, but I don't want to.
>>And I cannot rely on the presence of any program or TSO command that
>>does not come standard on a z/OS system?
>>I don't think there is a way to do this, but I'd love for someone to
>>prove me wrong.
>>David Cole
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