Seriously IBM was delivering AC922 or IC922 POWER servers.
POWER machines with NVIDIA GPUs for AI.
However they stopped.
Why?
Because they started delivering its own "AI chip", in z CP or POWER CP.
Is Intel cheaper? NO.
There are plenty of analyses where POWER is economically more effective
than Xeon.
The same apply to z CP.
I'm not working for IBM (now) and I was never involved in sales. The
above are just facts.
Of course we knowe sometimes a solution which means a competition is not
the best. Sometimes it is selled the best.
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 01.03.2023 o 19:16, zMan pisze:
So a $xxx,xxx mainframe can double the output of a $1500 card? "Make it up
in volume"???
Seriously, this is the question I keep coming up against wrt z16 and AI:
Why would anyone use expensive Z MIPs to do AI stuff instead of cheap Intel
MIPS?
On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 5:52 PM David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/3/23 06:37, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Telum isn't really an AI engine, but it has, e.g., vector capabilities
motivated by AI applications. I expect to see it used for more than AI.
Naturally, it's not an AI engine on its own; software is required for
that functionality. An ACM article [1] suggests that a 32-chip system
can achieve 200 tflops, which is roughly double the output of a $1500
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 graphics card with air cooling. In this context,
low latency is a critical factor.
[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3470496.3533042
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter
There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a new
SMF explorder that leverages Jupyter Notebooks. The z16 Telum chip has
integrated AI on die and a C library was published. Does anybody know if
this has been ported to Python numpy or tensorflow?
In z/OS 3.1, AI and analytics solutions such as the following plan to be
infused into the operating system using intelligent automation and
accelerated inferencing at scale to extract and leverage valuable data
insights:
* AI Framework support, intended to augment z/OS with intelligence
that optimizes IT processes, simplifies management, improves
performance, and reduces skill requirements
* The AI ecosystem, which z/OS 3.1 intends to extend by supporting a
leading AI portfolio with the ability to deploy AI co-located with
z/OS applications, designed for low latency response times
* AI-Powered WLM, designed to intelligently predict upcoming batch
workload and react accordingly for optimized system resources
* IBM SMF Explorer, a data access and analysis toolkit designed to
help even novice users access SMF data and extract insights in an
easy and modern way, leveraging Python and Jupyter Notebooks
On 28/2/23 23:35, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
This is the US Version of the announcement letter
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