First, let me say that I have NO inside knowledge.

While it doesn't directly answer the question, the official IBM page for "IBM Z 
mainframe hardware product marketing and service life cycle history since 
1994." can be found at 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-mainframe-life-cycle-history Pages 3 and 
4 are pretty good (3 is pretty, 4 is good)

So, if the averages hold (I have NO inside knowledge about marketing), HW WDFM 
would be Oct 2023. Again, let me be 100% clear: I have NO inside knowledge. 
This is just based on an official IBM publication.

Did I mention that I have NO inside knowledge, only an educated guess?

As for z17, such a beast does not exist, but I hear that the z16 is quite 
excellent. 😊

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Tommy Tsui
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 2:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Z15 EOM

Hi all

Anyone know when ibm will issue the withdrawal letter for z15. Anyone planning 
to upgrade z17?  It seems a bit late due to COVID-19?

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