Perhaps your outsourcer will accept recommendations by IBM in an official
apar, see https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/II09294
This says in part "If you can accept slower response times or occasional
slower

  response times and the load is not too great, CFs in shared
  LPs may be a viable alternative to running CFs with DEDICATED
  CP resources."


On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 12:04 AM Allan Staller <
00000387911dea17-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

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> The "spare" ICF engine on the "A" box could be shared between *your*
> test/production sysplexes.
>
> HTH
>
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> Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel
> Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?
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> The situation.
>
> We share a couple of Z13's with another (larger client). Z13 B is where we
> run our development LPARs and Z13 A is production.
>
> For critical business reasons an online application on our production LPAR
> needs to be highly available and that means in a parallel sysplex.  But our
> outsourcer has told us it cannot be done for the following reasons because
> there are no spare ICF engines on the host B - all are being used by other
> CF instances, either to support production Sysplexes or development ones
> (not ours).
>
> Host A does potentially have a spare ICF engine we could use to support a
> production parallel Sysplex but good practice does recommend you create a
> test one first of course.
>
> I then asked the question, if host A has a spare ICF engine, can't it be
> used to support a CF to be used by the test Sysplex on B. I was advised
> this was not possible since there are no spare connections between host A
> and Host B (Infiniband possibly) so the Sysplex on B could not actually
> communicate with the CF on A.
>
> Our requirement for the Sysplex is primarily to be able to share a VSAM
> dataset which is hit every time a transaction comes in with a peak of about
> 99tps. So we would need VSAM RLS to share the dataset records between the
> two application instances. There is no DB2, CICS or IMS so I think the only
> structures in the CF are those to support VSAM RLS, maybe some XCF
> structures and core systems.
>
> Knowing that we would only bring up the test sysplex to make sure
> transactions routed correctly across the two LPARs and most of the time we
> would have one member of the Sysplex off, I suggested that the test CF
> could be built using a CP.  To this suggestion I received the following
> (anti) advice
> - there would be MSU costs (we don't care since we think the MIPS load on
> the CF would be low). Plus we would ask that the CF be defined with Dynamic
> Coupling Facility Dispatch and set DYNDISP=THIN. Since that CF is going to
> be idling most of the time, MSU consumption is not going to be a major cost.
> - it's strongly recommended not to do this by IBM. Yet when I read this
> document
>
>
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdownloads%2Fcas%2FJZB2E38Q&data=05%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C1962ff1c13d7410924a708db1c617020%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C638134977066659942%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=78DxD9grmMmrALQNItds2OaQ6Eyuv43mGVh5%2BoeqQnk%3D&reserved=0
> the option is discussed in great detail and the only negatives are the
> incurring of MSU costs and some performance degradation if both a z/OS and
> CF LPAR are trying to use the same CP at the same time.  But this can be
> managed.
>
> - that a CF running on a CP would need a dedicated CP engine and there are
> no spare engines in host B. That totally flies against the information I
> have read from IBM docs.
>
> Of course for production the CF on host A would be configured to use an
> ICF engine (or share one)
>
> Finally, while I accepted the argument at the time there were no
> connections between Host A and Host B, further reading suggests that you do
> not need to dedicate channels for communications but use XCF or by using
> Infiniband sub channels or sharing the same physical link with more than
> one Sysplex. Then the issue of running the CF on a CP goes away since I can
> ask for two CF's to be defined on host A, one for production and one for
> test and DCFC ensures that that production CF is not impacted by the
> development one.
>
> A lot to digest here but I really want to have some authoritative data in
> order to refute most of the comments being our outsourcer.
>
> Thanks
>
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