Apologies - I should have said SNOBOL4, which is what I used at that time, not 
any earlier SNOBOL version.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 8:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

Has anybody used a version older than SNOBOL 4?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Cameron Conacher <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 8:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

Good morning Peter,
SNOBOL??
Geeze that takes me way back.

I had a smile and had to call some old colleagues.

Thank you!

.......Cameron
OOO - March 28, 29, 30 and 31.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Farley, Peter
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [External] Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by 
value]

I am getting increasingly tired of snide or outright dismissive references to 
COBOL and by extension to COBOL programmers.

Programmers like me.

Yes, I am also well versed in HLASM, Rexx, awk and gawk, somewhat facile in 
SORT (at least as far as knowing and using JOIN's), SQL, JCL and various other 
z/OS utilities, MetalC, and lately python and bash scripting.  I even remember 
some of the PL/I and Fortran and Pascal I used in college and my early 
employment days.  I even remember some SNOBOL, which I actually got to use 
productively at a then-major NY bank very early in my career.

COBOL pays my bills and keeps my employer operating successfully and profitably.

COBOL does NOT rot the brain.  Alcohol and various other legal and illegal 
substances can, in fact, do that.  Intelligently devising business solutions to 
business problems in ANY computer language does NOT rot the brain.

It is not funny or acceptable to say so.  It never was.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ASM call by value

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:18:49 +0000, Frank Swarbrick wrote:

<Snipped>

>In COBOL, for example, the following end up doing the same thing.
>
Do not use CO BOL as an exemplar of programming discipline.  Cobol rots the 
brain.

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