I’m not interested in the PASN 

You want me to be specfic ok 

I have to Alets that I ALESERV ed

To WORKUNIT=AL

One is the Alet of another address space the other is a dataspace that I 
created in a SRB scope=all 

I put data into it running under TESTAUTH I cannt display it 

What I would like to is write a customized TESTAUTH subcommand that would go 
into the debugged TCB which I can get from the TCOMTAB get any Alets associated 
with it
And display the Data in this dataspace 

> On Mar 30, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Glen Garrison <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>   So you are trying to determine, at any given point in time, if a task or 
> srb has anything at all aleserv'ed?   From a task perspective, you can find 
> the du-al as we have walked through.   But if someone running under that task 
> has aleserv'ed to the pasn I know of no way you can identify that.    The 
> du-al is unique to a task but there is nothing in the pasn side that is task 
> related that you would be able to locate and associate with a specific task, 
> that I know of.    
>   I can't say I know the cross memory services task termination/supervisor 
> functionality or programming requirements for owning a dataspace (for 
> example) and having added it to the pasn.   So I don't really know how they 
> clean up an in-use pasn ale, made in use by a task that may be going away.  
> (I say going away because that would require them to identify a specific ale 
> by task.)    I support real storage manager so my knowledge is on the 
> dataspace and dat translation side.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Reichman
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 5:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: finding DU-AL in a dump
> 
> Chapter 5 in the pops book is program execution on page 5-46 is access 
> register introduction being an ALET is loaded onto an access register would 
> reading up on that give me a better understanding of doing what I want to do 
> 
> I mean finding/if there are any alets for that TASK/SRB
> 
> thanks   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Glen Garrison
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 4:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: finding DU-AL in a dump
> 
> The du-al, as well as the pasn are access LISTS.  Tables used to translate an 
> alet to the correct DAT structures for the "space" you have aleserv'ed onto 
> the list.  Aleserv add obtains an entry in the list for your request and 
> assigns it to your request and builds the alet based on the index of the 
> entry chosen.    You have to know the alet to get to the correct ale and then 
> aste for the 'space' you are trying to translate to.    Since there can be 
> multiple valid entries in the access list, to get to the correct one you must 
> know the index in the alet.   If you're lucky, yours is the only one on the 
> list and you can scan to see it but that's by chance. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Reichman
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 3:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: finding DU-AL in a dump
> 
> How did you come up with that  ? I’ll Look
> 
> Is there anyway figuring it out with our knowing the alet 
> 
> I mean maybe by starting at the bottom
> And looking for a non zero entry 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Glen Garrison <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Take the last 2 bytes of your alet, multiply by x'10' and add to the 
>> value of stcbalov. (index into the du-al).  That gets you to the ALE
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
>> Behalf Of Joseph Reichman
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 8:44 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] finding DU-AL in a dump
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> v
>> 
>> I have two  ALETS one from an address space one from a dataspace they 
>> are both on DU-AL I put them there via ALESERV AL=WORKUNIT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am looking for them in a dump
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I know the acronym ALE: in a dump stands for Access list element
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I also know that STCBALOV offset X'20 from the STCB for the TCB I am 
>> running under points to it
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At that are all I see is X'80000... not my two alets
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I see the same in a dump. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Under the ALE: heading.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just wondering where I would find them. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks    
>> 
>> 
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