The point that I'm trying to make with IBM is why support a path option on the 
SUBMITLIB parameter if it just doesn't work during JES2 initialization when the 
system is IPLed? The design is broken.

Mark Jacobs  

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On Tuesday, May 9th, 2023 at 5:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
<[email protected]> wrote:


> On Tue, 9 May 2023 19:58:11 +0000, Mark Jacobs wrote:
> 
> > I opened a ticket with IBM on this. Should be interesting to hear what they 
> > say.
> 
> Keep the list posted. I'm taking short odds on WAD in view of Rex's concerns.
> OMVS remains a second-class citizen; considered expendable. You might be
> advised to move your submitlib to an old-fashioned PDS.
> 
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Tuesday, May 9th, 2023 at 12:21 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
> > 
> > > I see a problem with this scenario. It appears to me that there is a call 
> > > (not necessarily by Shmuel) to potentially have JES2 wait for OMVS to be 
> > > up before it does its startup (or at least completes the startup). Due to 
> > > a self-inflicted screw-up on one of our LPARs, OMVS decided it had to do 
> > > a filesystem check on every filesystem on the system. This took a good 
> > > half hour where it simply appeared our LPAR was hung. JES2 had come up 
> > > and I was able to start a few address spaces that are dependent on JES so 
> > > I could figure out what was going on. Had JES been waiting for OMVS we 
> > > would have been completely in the dark on this issue.
> > > 
> > > I could see there being communication between JES and OMVS so that when 
> > > OMVS gets initialized it signals JES to redrive any failed zFS 
> > > allocations, but don't force JES to wait until zFS is available.
> 
> 
> --
> gil
> 
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