HI Terri,
My grandpa drove a Model T ... Should I also drive one?
(I'm 67 and have been wearing glasses for almost 55 years. This is irrelevant.)

Regards,
David

On 2023-07-02 21:19, Shaffer, Terri wrote:
Amazing for 38 years, I have never used anything bigger than 14" PC monitor. My 
24x80 saves my eyes at age 60, that I don't need glasses.. So that's a poor excuse.

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Hi Terri,
If you have a 14 inch monitor, it is time to invest in your career and get a 
proper monitor (e.g. 27 inch minimum).
If you're seeing 3-4 lines, it also means that you're probably using Model 2 
emulation (24x80). Model 2 for a SysProg wastes a lot of time with 
unnecessarily scrolling, plus your context is not useful.
You should be running (minimum) Model 4 emulation (43x80) and preferably
3290 emulation (62x160).

Regards,
David

On 2023-07-02 19:50, Shaffer, Terri wrote:
Besides having ServerPac back, I want no background checking down.

I want batch jobs built to allocate everything, IF a newbie want to trust the 
process awesome.  But in my 38 years, opps doesn't cut it.

Again, just give me a switch.  Allow the scripts to build the batch jobs and I 
will verify everything exists, if a conflict arises in dataset names, flag them 
and I will resolve in batch.

Then too many headers, Tabs, etc, in workflows means you only see about 3-4 lines on 
a 14" monitor. I should not have to acquire a new monitor to run/see them with 
ease.

Again I hate, anything that runs remote to the lpar, it's the first thing that 
doesn't respond, besides using way too much CPU overall, just to screen flip.

Serverpac hardly ever got out of period 1, TSO.

Just a bad design overall....

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In an attempt to steer this to a brainstorming thing...

What are the components of zOSMF, and what are the warts people have noticed?
Apart from the UI or that a UI itself exists.

Websphere Liberty,... what else?
What parts are tunable, what capabilities are needed, etc?


- KB

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On Saturday, July 1st, 2023 at 2:38 AM, Tom Marchant 
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I don't see why, and that wouldn't be consistent with what they have done in 
the past.
Some examples:
z/OS 2.1 was available September 2013. It was not supported on a z990
or a Z890. Support for those were dropped in 2014 and 2016 z/OS 2.2 was 
available in 2015. It was not supported on a z9. z9 EC was supported until 
2017. z9 BC was supported until 2019.
z/OS 2.3 was available in 2017. It was not supported on a z196 (support dropped 
2021) or z114 (supported until 2022).
z/OS 2.5 was available in 2021. It was not supported on a zEC12 or a zBC12. 
AFAIK, support for those have not yet been dropped.

I'm not sure, but I think that what IBM has done is to support a level of 
hardware until the last release of z/OS that is supported on that machine is 
off support, or at least withdrawn from marketing. Not to support a new release 
of the operating system on all processors that are currently supported at GA.

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Tom Marchant

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:01:21 -0500, Brian Westerman 
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote:

So is IBM definitely dropping support for the z13s BEFORE z/OS 3.1 is 
officially out? If not, then it should be supported by z/OS 3.1. . . .
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