You have just convinced me that your posts are not worth reading. On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 03:00:38 +0000, Jon Perryman <jperr...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >>How could you not find official references when so many people are > >>infuriated. > >> How dare I fail to read everything that you do! > >> If this was a Linux list perhaps your arrogant response would be warranted. > > >I don't look at much Linux stuff these days but IBM RHEL closed source is >popping up everywhere. I only looked at a couple items out of interest. How >dare you not read anything. You asked for a reference which a quick search >returned the RedHat response I provided. An arrogant response is warranted >because you didn't make a basic attempt to find something that returns so many >hits. > >> That page doesn't say what you said it says, >> "IBM RHEL announced it's move to closed source (IBM RedHat Enterprise >> Linux)." >> Not only does it not say that, it refutes it. > > >The article denies but does not refute. RHEL says that paywall and NDA isn't >closed source. The Linux community says open source is not restricted source. >They consider this to be closed source but it's never been tested by the >courts. > >>> but not in the spirit of GPL by restricting access to the executables. > >> What does that mean? > > >By "spirit", I'm saying opinion. As we learned from SCOTUS interpretation of >the Constitution, it's open to opinion otherwise every SCOTUS decision would >be unanimous. > >>> DB2 for Linux and Windows is not DB2 for z/OS. > >> Of course not. Who cares? For one thing, the I/O interfaces are different. >> For another, z/OS is EBCDIC and Linux is not. > > >Customers care. For instance, large SAP customers choose DB2 on z/OS because >DB2 on other platforms is not performant nor as reliable. For these customers >to move to RHEL on z, Linux must include DB2 for z/OS without the need for >z/OS. > >>Sysplex is the ability to tightly couple up to 32 z16 boxes. > >> I know what Sysplex is, and it is decades older than z16. >> Sysplex is a software construct, not hardware, although certain hardware is >> required to implement it. > > >Sysplex is both software combined with hardware constructs. Shared dasd, >coupling facilities and other hardware combined with various software >components are required for sysplex. > >>>At the moment, z/OS is the OS of choice for utilizing sysplex. > >> No. z/OS (and MVS before it) is the operating system that implements Sysplex. >> It is not something implemented in hardware that z/OS utilizes. >. >Without required structures in the coupling facility, you can't have sysplex. >You may not be aware of these structures but nonetheless they are a hardware >requirement for sysplex. > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 04:06:14 PM PDT, Tom Marchant > <0000000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 18:54:04 +0000, Jon Perryman <jperr...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >>> You didn't bother to cite any reference, so I am highly skeptical. >>> I looked for this "announcement" and didn't find it. >> >> >>How could you not find official references when so many people are infuriated. > >How dare I fail to read everything that you do! >If this was a Linux list perhaps your arrogant response would be warranted. > >>For instance, see >>https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes >> where a RedHat VP tries to calm the rage. > >That page doesn't say what you said it says, "IBM RHEL announced it's move to >closed source (IBM RedHat Enterprise Linux)." Not only does it not say that, >it refutes it. > >> > Linux is licensed under the GPL. >> >> >>Access to IBM RHEL executable and source access now requires paying for >>services and signing an NDA. Technically, they are following GPL by providing >>source with executables > >Yes, that is consistent with the GPL. > >> but not in the spirit of GPL by restricting access to the executables. > >What does that mean? GPL has always allowed you to charge for a GPL licensed >program. > >Version 3 says it this way to make it clear: > >"You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey, and you >may offer support or warranty protection for a fee." > >>> Db2 has been available for Linux for many years. >> >>DB2 for Linux and Windows is not DB2 for z/OS. > >Of course not. Who cares? For one thing, the I/O interfaces are different. For >another, z/OS is EBCDIC and Linux is not. >> >>> What is a "sysplexed Linux"? >> >>Sysplex is the ability to tightly couple up to 32 z16 boxes. > >Yes, I know what Sysplex is, and it is decades older than z16. Sysplex is a >software construct, not hardware, although certain hardware is required to >implement it. > >>At the moment, z/OS is the OS of choice for utilizing sysplex. > >No. z/OS (and MVS before it) is the operating system that implements Sysplex. >It is not something implemented in hardware that z/OS utilizes > >-- >Tom Marchant > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
